On 30.06.2012 02:15, Terry Barnum wrote: > On Jun 29, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > >> On 30.06.2012 01:08, Terry Barnum wrote: >>> On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: >>> >>>> On 29.06.2012 21:20, Terry Barnum wrote: >>>>> I have postfix, dovecot2, dspam and the antispam plugin working on a test >>>>> server and I can see from the dspam log that retraining happens when I >>>>> move a false negative into the Junk folder. >>>>> >>>>> Are the Dspam headers supposed to change? After moving a false negative >>>>> into the Junk folder the headers still say X-Dspam-Result: Innocent and >>>>> X-Dspam-Probability: 0.0000. >>>> Who is moving the mail? -> the user using dovecot >>>> What method/technique/backend is used for the moving? -> the dovecot >>>> server in IMAP/S mode >>>> What kind of information does DSPAM get from the dovecot anti-spam >>>> plugin? -> username, class (spam|ham), source (error), signature >>>> What kind of status does DSPAM give back when being instructed to >>>> retrain based on a signature? -> success|failure >>>> >>>> >>>> I think you know now the answer to your question. Right? >>> The answer to your question is yes--the answer to my question is no. >> Correct! >> >> In reality users don't care much about the X-DSPAM headers as long as >> they can use drag and drop to reclassify the mail. For them this is all >> done transparently with the anti-spam plugin. >> However! In the Spam/Ham buttons I have done for Lotus Notes, I do >> change the X-DSPAM-Result after the retraining. I have never heard of >> any one in the last 4 to 5 years since I have written the plugin to >> check the result field. They just drag and drop mail around and never >> look at the X-DSPAM-Result header. That header does not interest them. >> But another issue does: The subject prefixing. >> When they move from the Spam/Junk folder to their Inbox then they really >> like the [SPAM] tag to go away. They don't care so much for a [SPAM] >> label when they move from Inbox to Spam/Junk. So i had to add that >> add/remove of the tag when you move from/to Spam/Junk/Inbox folder. > What did you use to change the subject? Normal coding. It's all inside the Lotus Notes plugin that you can find in the contrib directory.
> Do most people using dovecot's antispam plugin just configure dspam with > "spamSubject=" to avoid this situation? Yes. This is what I have seen most people doing. However... you need to have another mechanism (usually sieve script) that is moving mail to the Spam/Junk folder when the X-DSPAM-Result header is spam/blacklisted/blocklisted/virus. Should the filtering (for what ever reason) stop working then it could pretty well happen that you get all messages just into the inbox folder. So you have no easy way discovering that the filtering stopped working (except if you would look into the mail headers). >>> Thank you Stevan. >>> >>> -Terry >> -- >> Kind Regards from Switzerland, >> >> Stevan Bajić > Terry Barnum > digital OutPost > http://www.dop.com > > -- Kind Regards from Switzerland, Stevan Bajić ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Dspam-user mailing list Dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspam-user
