Well, I know i use dspam 3.8.0-r4 and gentoo portage system has an update for 3.8.0-r7. So, someone is doing code updates. I am not sure if it is gentoo devs making modifications or if it is someone else. I know they have a tendency to provide their own fixes to packages in portage.

This package really needs community support. If it is closed from out side development, it will not get the proper attention it needs and the people will stop using the product. I have outlined some important things I have realized when installing and using the software below. I feel that only community based development will get this done in an effective way.

The main reason is this product can't just be installed (like a lot of closed development applications tend to be / some binary to install with config limits) it has to be specially configured per system based on the MTA being used and any other content filtering application like virus scanners and malware scanners. Sometimes the mail server resides on the same box as dspam (me), or others use it and then forward mail onto a windows exchange server or something. All these variety of setups require a lot of knowledge of various particulars. I feel a closed developed product just doesn't have the diversity to satisfy this. A community based effort can usually reach all these areas.

The other main reason is documentation. Current Documentation is good... If you are in a lab with a perfect distribution setup. Other than that you might as well throw it out the window. I have read various setups docs all over the web, and I have come to the conclusion that no one has it setup the same. The docs don't take in for variety of systems and applications. A community based wiki or doc system with real world examples would help with this i believe. It would continue to grow as the product would grow as well.

So two major things, that ideally would require full community participation...

minor thing is to fix some issues with the web interface. I am still having to fix permissions on folders for every new user.

~D

Yan Seiner wrote:
David Rees wrote:
On Nov 28, 2007 12:47 AM, Andreas Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mick Johnson wrote:
We'll be putting out the next patch release early next year, and would like anyone interested in being a tester to please drop us a line! You can always
Sorry, I don't understand why this is required. Create a source package
release it to the public. People will try and test it and report back to the
dev mailing list. There are a lot of people doing patches atm.

Again, I concur. At the very least, there are enough patches floating
around to warrant a 3.8.1 release.

I'm afraid that if development doesn't happen out in the open, it will
be more difficult to attract outside developers and testers. If that
is not a priority and development remains behind closed doors, then I
would suspect that would motivate people to fork the project. Just
look at all the discussion that has take place about forking dspam
recently because of the lack of response from Sensory Networks.
Yes. I participated in one of those "open but closed" tester programs for a different product; after a year of testing, submitting bug reports and developing what we thought was an excellent rapport with the company, we got a terse 'Thank you and the beta mailing list is now closed' note, and no more support from the company unless we paid.

It really left a bad taste in my mouth; either treat me as a co-owner / co-developer or as a customer, but don't do this halfway open/closed thing. I won't do it again.


I am excited to see some response from Sensory Networks. I hope that
development can continue as dspam is an excellent spam filter.
Yes.  I'd like to see better installation / setup automation.

--Yan

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