Nicolas Bouthors skrev, on 18-12-2007 15:37:
Le 18/12/2007 15:21, Tony Earnshaw écrivait :
On what basis do you read your users' mail to see whether it's spam or
not?
We're french, so every mail with a subject of "Vigara vholesale" and
"Fuck me dear", or other japaneese/russian/turkish[1] mumbo jumbo is an
easy guess. For the rest, they almost all use thunderbird which
(sometimes with the help of said l-user) does a good job putting the
spam in the IMAP "Junk" folder. We parse those folder by cron to
retrain.
Ok, so here we're all Dutch (in spite of the Norwegian "skrev" in the
gooch at the top, I'm Walloon (francofon, tu sais? Mais donc Wallon,
'pas francais) Belgian/English/Norwegian/Dutch and have Norwegian
Thunderbird) and there are devilishly strict laws, set by the Dutch
state and by the EU in general about reading other peoples' email. As
there are in Norway, where the rules are set by the Norwegian
«Datatilsynet», mostly in accord with the EU - Norway is not in the EU,
but sits with a permanent Damocles sword hanging above its head in most
EU matters.
It is (in Norway, Holland nor France) *not* allowed, without prior
implicit/explicit (e.g. both parts) permission, to read other peoples'
email, even by an employer, even though those people are thieves,
robbers and murderers. Unless the instance reading it is a recognized
state intelligence organization, in which case it may do as it wishes
without informing anyone.
Agreed about what you write about stuff not being in one's own language
often (not always) being spam. But my Dutch people (most of them
juvenile) often subscribe to poker, anything you choose sites, that are
not Dutch. Teachers often subscribe to French, German, English (Turkish,
Arabic, Russian - you name it).
It's not good enough to be looking out for "Vigara vholesale" and that
sort of thing with dspam. That's not how dspam works. That's how
SpamAssassin works and is one of the many reasons I left SpamAssassin.
What would you do if you had a site like mine with ~1200 users?
Hire a patient lemming on my side, and do the same with several groups,
probably one by domain or by client. Or better yet, do a group by domain
managed by a lemming of said domain.
You haven't thought through this answer. It is in conflict with the
group documentation.
This is my opinion anyway. Lots of people on the list ought to have
better ideas. Please care to share.
I see no other answer for the use of any of the groups possibilities
than merged and shared (I use shared after having done a merge and let
all of my ~1250 my *stupid* buggers over to themselves with a shared
group). All but a few of my users are Dutch ASOs (anti social vermin)
anyway, the ASOs don't do what I ask, nay, nag, them every day.
-Tonni
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Tony Earnshaw
Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl
