-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:42:18 +0100
> Von: Tony Earnshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
> Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 19:53:
>
> [...]
>
> > Is this more suiting your needs:
>
> I don't have any needs ;) Everything works for me.
>
Okay. Then my work was +/- for nothing :)
> > # rpmbuild --with mysql --with clamav --with daemon --with syslog --with
> large-domain --with virtual_users --target=i686 -ba dspam-3.8.0-1.1.spec
>
> I don't call Clamav from dspam and never would - I call clamd from
> amavisd-new, together with BitDefender and Sophos AV. Where's your
> BitDefender here?
>
Tonni! It is an example! I don't use ClamAV with DSPAM and have not planned to
use it. I use Amavis-New with ClamAV, BitDefender, F-Prot and Sophos AV.
> > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.src.rpm
>
> It's generally considered bad practice for root to build rpms (or
> software at all, imagine the make cd'ing to a non-existent directory and
> doing 'rm -rf *') and you have to be root to build in the
> /usr/src/redhat/ hierarchy. I build as the mortal tonni in my own home
> directory and have a ~/.rpmmacros that gives the hierarchy.
>
Don't worry. It is done in a chroot jail. I am no n00b. I do Linux since long
time. A "rm -rf *" will not do any harm :). At least nothing I could not
recover in 1 minute.
> > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm
> > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm
> > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm
> > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm
>
> I don't have a web rpm; I suppose I should (I don't use the web GUI).
> Then everything would have to go into /usr/share, according to Red Hat.
>
A static and dynamic (cgi stuff) web page goes into /usr/share? Since when is a
web page a Unix System Resource (aka: usr)? Is this the way Red Hat is
installing web pages? Under what directory in /usr/share?
> > And here the content:
> >
> > /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm:
>
> Ok up to here ...
>
> [...]
>
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam
>
> I don't have a directory /usr/lib/dspam in 3.8.0, but ok.
>
In Gentoo we separated the storage drivers into a separate directory. I just
used the same approach with the RPM.
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 51488 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.a
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 850 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.la
> > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so -> libhash_drv.so.7.0.0
> > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so.7 -> libhash_drv.so.7.0.0
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 51657 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so.7.0.0
>
> All these go into /usr/lib.
>
See above.
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 310260 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/libdspam.a
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 802 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/libdspam.la
> > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/libdspam.so -> libdspam.so.7.0.0
> > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/libdspam.so.7 -> libdspam.so.7.0.0
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 227730 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/libdspam.so.7.0.0
>
> Same as these.
>
See above.
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 210769 Mar 18 2007
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/CHANGELOG
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 89797 Mar 18 2007
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/README
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 211 Mar 18 2007
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/RELEASE.NOTES
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3179 Mar 18 2007
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/UPGRADING
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1409 Mar 11 2005
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/courier.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4221 Mar 11 2005
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/exim.txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1629 May 17 2006
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/markov.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8431 Dec 23 20:39
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/mysql_drv.txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1505 Mar 11 2005
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/osx.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5925 Sep 24 2005
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/pgsql_drv.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1858 Mar 11 2005
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/pop3filter.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7018 Jan 18 2006
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/postfix.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2372 Mar 11 2005
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/qmail.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6796 Mar 18 2007
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/relay.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1312 Mar 11 2005
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/sendmail.txt
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3704 May 25 2006
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/sqlite_drv.txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3585 May 24 2006
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/tests.txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4731 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man1/dspam.1.gz
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1138 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_clean.1.gz
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 788 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_dump.1.gz
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 940 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_merge.1.gz
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 859 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_stats.1.gz
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 867 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_train.1.gz
> > >
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam
> > drw-r--r-- 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/opt-in
> > drw-r--r-- 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/opt-out
> > drw-r--r-- 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts
> > drw-r--r-- 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2257 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/txt/firstrun.txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1315 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/txt/firstspam.txt
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 59 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/txt/msgtag.nonspam
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dsstuffpam/txt/msgtag.spam
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1283 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/txt/quarantinefull.txt
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/log/dspam
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/run/dspam
>
> No problem with this. Quite the reverse, you've put $DSPAMHOME into
> /var/lib, which is where I suspect Red Hat would (e.g. LDAP, MySQL). I
> don't have the logs in /var/log/dspam, I have them in $DSPAMHOME which
> is where Jonz put them, but you're probably right. I have
> /var/run/dspam.pid since dspam --daemon is running as root and no
> problems with writes.
>
The log's should be separated from $DSPAMHOME. The system.log of DSPAM can and
should be in $DSPAMHOME but not the other logs when you enable debugging. They
should be outside of $DSPAMHOME. The tool dspam_logrotate does not like the
debug logs to be in $DSPAMHOME.
> > /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm:
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4869 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/agent_shared.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6402 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/auto-config.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 918 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/base64.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2145 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/bnr.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1078 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/buffer.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1725 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/client.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2505 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/config.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1019 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/config_api.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1444 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/config_shared.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2295 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/daemon.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5111 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/decode.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2227 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/diction.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3284 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/dspam.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 944 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/dspamc.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1426 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/error.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1987 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/hash.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3156 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/hash_drv.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1543 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/heap.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7651 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/language.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1017 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/ldap_client.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3378 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/libdspam.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12138 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/libdspam_objects.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1672 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/list.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2759 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/mysql_drv.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/ncore_adp.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2507 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/nodetree.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2992 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/pgsql_drv.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1974 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/pref.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1108 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/read_config.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1947 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/sqlite3_drv.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1938 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/sqlite_drv.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5455 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/storage_driver.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2253 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/tokenizer.h
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3041 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/include/dspam/util.h
>
> Ok, but a lot of this stuff (e.g. mysql_drv.h) wasn't in the build root
> and almost certainly isn't needed for dspam-devel (it's already been
> used to make the drivers and libs).
>
They are small and will not harm being in the RPM and having them available for
the developers helps them to better understand stuff.
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 190 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/pkgconfig/dspam.pc
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-devel-3.8.0
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9962 May 16 2006
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-devel-3.8.0/example.c
>
> I put this in /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0, probably right to have a
> separate doc directory for dspam-devel - but there isn't much in it, is
> there?
>
The example.c has not much stuff in it. But it has big value for the developers.
> > lrw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/dspam_addattribute.3.gz ->
> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
> > lrw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/dspam_attach.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
> > lrw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/dspam_create.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
> > lrw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/dspam_destroy.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
> > lrw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/dspam_detach.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
> > lrw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/dspam_getsource.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
> > lrw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/dspam_init.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
> > lrw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/dspam_process.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2589 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/share/man/man3/libdspam.3.gz
>
> Ok. That alone is a load of nasty dancing in the spec, isn't it?
>
No. It's not. The spec file is not responsible for this "dancing". It is DSPAM
with this here: %{__make} DESTDIR=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT install
It is the normal "make install" producing this "dancing".
> > /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm:
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 87080 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libmysql_drv.a
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 892 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libmysql_drv.la
> > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libmysql_drv.so -> libmysql_drv.so.7.0.0
> > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libmysql_drv.so.7 -> libmysql_drv.so.7.0.0
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 81073 Dec 23 20:41
> /usr/lib/dspam/libmysql_drv.so.7.0.0
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1303 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts/mysql_objects-4.1.sql
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1266 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts/mysql_objects-space.sql
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1249 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts/mysql_objects-speed.sql
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1370 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts/mysql_purge-4.1.sql
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 593 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts/mysql_purge.sql
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 250 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts/mysql_virtual_user_aliases.sql
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 262 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/lib/dspam/sql-scripts/mysql_virtual_users.sql
>
> As you (probably) know, I force my builders to build all of the drivers
> - that was a suggestion from Jonz, but your way is probably more ...
> hmmm ... Swiss ;)
>
I am a Gentoo user and I don't like to install a software with 1 million
dependencies to libraries and servers I don't need. Assuming I would like to
use DSPAM with the hash driver: Why do I then need to install MySQL server,
MySQL libraries, PostgreSQL server, PostgreSQL libraries and SQLite libraries?
I like the separation. It helps to keep the system clean and it does not harm
the others which are going anyway to install all the storage drivers.
> > /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm:
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 23 20:41
> /var/www/dspam
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22764 May 13 2006
> /var/www/dspam/admin.cgi
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3396 May 13 2006
> /var/www/dspam/admingraph.cgi
>
> [...]
>
> I have a real problem seen from Red Hat's hierarchy viewpoint with the
> above. RH installs all http stuff to /usr/share and /etc, not to
> /var/www. Personally I do put all of my own http stuff in /var/www. But
> I haven't used the dspam GUI, ever, so in my rpm it's in
> /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/webui/ for people to do what they want.
>
Can you point me to a link where the layout of web applications on RH are
described? I would like to understand where RH is putting that stuff under
/usr/share.
>
> > # rpm -Uvh
> /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam{-,-mysql_drv-}3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm
> > Preparing... ###########################################
> [100%]
> > 1:dspam ###########################################
> [ 50%]
> > 2:dspam-mysql_drv ###########################################
> [100%]
>
> Great, it installs ...
>
> > # dspam --version
> >
> > DSPAM Anti-Spam Suite 3.8.0 (agent/library)
> >
> > Copyright (c) 2002-2006 Jonathan A. Zdziarski
> > http://dspam.nuclearelephant.com
> >
> > DSPAM may be copied only under the terms of the GNU General Public
> License,
> > a copy of which can be found with the DSPAM distribution kit.
> >
> > Configuration parameters: '--build=i686-redhat-linux-gnu'
> '--host=i686-redhat-linux-gnu' '--target=i686-redhat-linux-gnu'
> '--program-prefix='
> '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--sbindir=/usr/sbin'
> '--datadir=/usr/share' '--includedir=/usr/include' '--libdir=/usr/lib'
> '--libexecdir=/usr/libexec' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/usr/com'
> '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info'
> '--enable-long-usernames' '--enable-syslog' '--enable-domain-scale'
> '--disable-large-scale'
> '--disable-homedir' '--enable-virtual-users' '--enable-preferences-extension'
> '--with-mysql-includes=/usr/include/mysql'
> '--with-mysql-libraries=/usr/lib/mysql' '--enable-daemon' '--disable-ldap'
> '--enable-clamav'
> '--disable-debug' '--disable-verbose-debug' '--disable-bnr-debug'
> '--with-storage-driver=hash_drv,mysql_drv' '--with-dspam-home=/var/lib/dspam'
> '--sysconfdir=/etc'
> '--with-dspam-owner=nobody' '--with-dspam-group=mail'
> '--with-dspam-home-group=mail' '--with-
> ds
> > pam-mode=2511' '--with-logdir=/var/log/dspam' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -g -pipe
> -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=generic
> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables'
> 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
> -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=generic
> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables' 'FFLAGS=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall
> -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
> -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686
> -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables'
> 'build_alias=i686-redhat-linux-gnu'
> 'host_alias=i686-redhat-linux-gnu' 'target_alias=i686-redhat-linux-gnu'
>
> I see a lot of output that's already in /usr/lib/rpm/macros but I
> don't see --enable-daemon --enable-debug --enable-preferences-extension
> --enable-homedir --with-dspam-owner/group --with-dspam-home and other
> stuff I have.
>
The SPEC is build to allow you to build that if you like. Just use one of the
available switches.
For RPM v4.x:
--with bnr_debug
--with clamav
--with daemon
--with debug
--with large_domain (enabling this will "--enable-large-scale
--disable-domain-scale". Not enabling this will "--enable-domain-scale
--disable-large-scale")
--with ldap
--with mysql
--with postgres
--with sqlite
--with sqlite3
--with syslog
--with user_homedirs
--with verbose_debug
--with virtual_users
For RPM v3.x:
--define '_with_bnr_debug 1'
--define '_with_clamav 1'
--define '_with_daemon 1'
--define '_with_debug 1'
--define '_with_large_domain 1' (enabling this will "--enable-large-scale
--disable-domain-scale". Not enabling this will "--enable-domain-scale
--disable-large-scale")
--define '_with_ldap 1'
--define '_with_mysql 1'
--define '_with_postgres 1'
--define '_with_sqlite 1'
--define '_with_sqlite3 1'
--define '_with_syslog 1'
--define '_with_user_homedirs 1'
--define '_with_verbose_debug 1'
--define '_with_virtual_users 1'
I think this is flexible as 1-2-3. Correct me if I am wrong?
> >> I still don't see the point of Gentoo patches on stuff which, though it
> >> might not work on Gentoo, still works perfectly on Red Hat RHEL5 and
> FC6
> >> and (judging from what the CVS stuff does) sigsegvs when I don't want
> it
>
> Steve, I appreciate the trouble you're going to here. I do things
> differently from you, I'm Norwegian English and you're Swiss and no
> doubt have your own philosophy. I think my method is kinder to my users
> because they don't have to cope with command-line difficulties, even
> though it probably forces them to install at least two back-end packages
> and development packages they'll never use.
>
Are your users building with the SPEC file? If so, then you are right. It makes
things more complicated for them. But the SPEC file is flexible enough to
enforce your settings as default. It would not require much changes in the
SPEC. If using the build RPM then your comment is not valid as they don't need
to use command line switches. They just need to install a bunch of RPMS more
then with your RPM.
> Now let's get on to the business of seeing why standalone CVS dspam
> called from stdin sigsegvs on FC6 (the daemon doesn't)? Got any idea?
> Why should I have to use useless Gentoo patches for curing problems I
> don't have?
>
Good question. But the answer is simple: You don't have them but others (even
outside Gentoo) have them. I follow one simple principle: think global, act
local.
While most of the stuff we patched in Gentoo will or is not affecting me or
Alin: It does affect our users. They reported it. We simulated their
environment on our end and reproduced the error. And then we fix it with the
goal to help our user base and to help any other user out there using DSPAM.
> Best,
>
> --Tonni
>
Kind Regards
Steve
> --
> Tony Earnshaw
> Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl
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