Ed....
Nevermind, like talking to the wall outlet.
I don't think I will be back here so this will be my last post...

I will stay on HF....

And no, there is nothing wrong with my internet connection...
Funny how you can analyse my internet connection and tell me it is my 
connection.
The Dongle stank....Hawaii I got lucky..
But then what do I know....
I am new at this radio stuff, where is the off switch?




-----Original Message-----
From: Woodrick, Ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 8:38 pm
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} Re: RE: Re: [dstar_digital] Re: D-STAR Field Day Update







When I change a few of the words below, it is amazing how it sound just like 
someone said it 30, 50, 80 years ago...

Feel free to replace FM with AM or SSB or CW.

And no, I'm not trying to be funny. This is indeed just about word for word 
what was said about EVERY migration to new modes in Amateur Radio during it's 
existence.

The world changes, rules change. CW used to be the best because you could copy 
it in worse conditions that any other mode, until PSK31 came around. You can 
copy PSK-31 when you can't even hear the signal. AM'ers used to complain about 
SSB because they sounded like Donald Duck. SSB'ers complained about FM and 
repeaters because it wasn't "Real Amateur Radio"

Analog cell phones were turned off a few months ago and no one noticed. Analog 
TV is disappearing very soon. Public Service organizations are going digital.

And the last few paragraphs are just what irk me. When FM Repeaters came out, 
everyone was noisy because there wasn't complete saturation like there is now. 
Just like when I bought a CD player, not everything was available, or when I 
bought a DVD player. There always is a little blood on the leading edge of 
technology. If you don't like it, then don't go there. But don't assume that 
the technology is terrible just because you don't a repeater next door.

As for the DVDongle, it seems as if you proved yourself wrong. Evidently your 
"fast connection" just really isn't that reliably fast. If it worked in Hawaii 
very well, doesn't that tell you anything?

I think that General Patton summed up my thoughts quite well.

Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way.
- General George Patton Jr

From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: RE: Re: [dstar_digital] Re: D-STAR Field Day Update

Re-read the post:
D-STAR RELIABILITY!

So don't get your nose all out of joint Nate.
Simple question about the reliability of D-Star FM as I am still one of those 
that are not convinced that Digital FM is the way to go,
eg...Cell Telephones are wirelessdigital and now we have radio that is digital 
FM.
Soon there will be television that will not be analog Black and White anymore.

Sure digital FM takes up less band space but still there is nothing like an 
analog AM signal because with analog AM you get great audio no R2D2.
And yes I do want to pick on D-Star FM a bit because it is an issue with which 
mode do I choose to save a life.

I have a D-Star FM radio, as a matter of fact I have 2, I also had a Dongle.
When my Icom is connected to an 8db gain antenna I still hear all or nothing 
R2D2. Just as much as when I had the 91AD. Sort of get tired of saying, "What?"
At the very least with the analog AM signal you can catch some of the 
conversation.

Ah the infamous Dongle, was more trouble then it was worth. Got a fast 
connection, but it kept timing out.
Tried it on 2 or 3 puters and poop....Not a means of reliability although when 
I was in Hawaii it worked quite well.
But the local D-Star repeater on G1 couldn't make it through the gateway to the 
G2 that was at my home area.
Rendered the 91AD useless for D-Star to talk home repeater because I had the 
wrong tone set and couldn't dial the autopatch

So the question is reliablity. Like I said, I am on the fence but have found it 
necessary to have a D-Star radio because it is another mode that could be used.
But what do I know, probably nothing at all as I am new to ham radio.

73 de N1TAI

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