Tom,

Well thought out! I agree.

Bob Spindle
W3AGB Trustee
D-Star Washington, DC


--- In [email protected], "Tom Azlin, N4ZPT" <n4...@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott.
> 
> Yes, it is nice to be coordinated on our DD mode access point. I manage
> the NV4FM Tysons Corner Virginia D-STAR stack which is owned by the
> Northern Virginia FM Association. (yes, pesky "FM" in the name but they
> have more FM repeaters than DV repeaters!)
> 
> I agree that the DD mode access point is not a repeater thus does not
> have to be in a repeater subband and does not require formal
> coordination. But using the local coordination body is playing nice and
> if the other gal's ATV repeater is coordinated then you are SOL.
> 
> Here in the T-MARC area we do voluntarily coordinate our DD
> modules just to be corporate and to have that coordination support in
> case of any issue. I do not think there is any need to ask the FCC
> anything on this, rather I would say do not ask the FCC!  And we did
> coordinate our DV repeaters as we believed from the beginning that they
> were repeaters in every sense.
> 
> Why is the 23cm triplexer not freq agile? Just retune it like any other
> set of cans! Or return it to be retuned if you do not have a network
> analyzer!
> 
> so ...
> 
> > 1) As a repeater owner, would you rather be coordinated?
> 
> Answer 1)   Certainly! We (NCR D-STAR) like the volunteer coordination
> for the DD mode access point. We created a National Capital Area D-STAR
> Association for the NCR D-STAR repeater owners/operators where we
> discuss and "coordinate" things to do with D-STAR repeater operation.
> Including where our DD mode access points sit but we are happy with the
> T-MARC support and placement.
> 
> > 2) Is there a reasonable alternative to coordination?
> 
> Answer 2) No. And of course coordination can be just operating and
> working with others to resolve interference and "I was here first"
> things. All we really had to do on the DD mode. Just put them where no
> one else is, and in the local digital mode section per the 23cm band
> plan. I suppose our NCR D-STAR Association could do this. There at one
> time was a D-MARC for coordinating digital mode stuff like packet and
> Digital ATV but that fell apart, perhaps as no need? And T-MARC is
> willing so why not?
> 
> > 3) Should this be something we pursue with the FCC?
> 
> Answer 3) Nope. We are supposed to self regulate so lets do that. Has
> been working for a long time on other digital infrastructure stuff like
> packet and APRS. We do plan local discussions on simplex DV calling
> frequencies. And have been part of the T-MARC DV committee.
> 
> 73, Tom Azlin n4zpt
> NV4FM D-STAR administrator
> NCR D-STAR Association member
> 
> Scott wrote:
> > As a repeater owner I'm thinking I would like to have the minimal 
> > protection offered by the coordination process.  The "repeaters" may
> >  be frequency agile but a 1.2G triplexer is not.  Additionally, the 
> > local frequency coordinators are responsible for publishing my 
> > frequency to the ARRL and other potential repeater owners/users 
> > locally.
> > 
> > After reading Part 97.205 and 97.3.a.39 it appears the FCC is only 
> > recognizes simultaneously broadcasted duplex signals as repeaters 
> > needing coordination. The Icom DD mode "repeater" fails both 
> > requirements.
> > 
> > My questions are -
> > 
> > 1) As a repeater owner, would you rather be coordinated?
> > 
> > 2) Is there a reasonable alternative to coordination?
> > 
> > 3) Should this be something we pursue with the FCC?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Scott N7SS
> > 
> > 
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