Agreed, callsigns should be the real callsign. Even in AX.25 packet, the 
callsign was the callsign. An alias field was added to support tactical calls.

If you use MYEOC as a tactical call, then unless it is registered, it can't 
source route or link repeaters.  And from an EOC, that's something that you 
might want to do.

You also have to think that we John was alluding to, D-STAR is a much wider 
impact communications medium than a VHF/UHF Packet or voice system. You don't 
see much use of tactical callsigns on HF because it too has a wide impacting 
implication.

And don't forget that many county names are used multiple times across the US, 
so collisions can definitely be a problem and one county registering their 
tactical call before another wouldn't be really fair.

Maybe the more appropriate action would be to get callsigns for the EOCs. Many 
might already have a RACES call, but you can get additional callsigns for your 
organization to act as your tactical callsigns.

Ed WA4YIH


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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:49 PM
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Subject: 880 vs 800 (was: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Signal Distance)




I think in the "real world" you would find that quite often a "tactical 
callsign" is in use in multiple locations. (For example, during a hurricane in 
the Gulf coast, multiple EOC stations may be on D-STAR at the same time.) In 
the dynamic design, you really don't have a database of who's using what 
callsign (though such a design would probably have query tools) I see this 
design being very dynamic with routing lookups "on demand" with caching. So the 
local "gateway" sees your local special callsign and marks it as being on local 
repeater "X" and reports to the central data servers, that "EOC" is now on 
repeater "X" (based on the "MY EOC" field). The gateway also services another 
repeater "Y" and someone now calls "UR EOC" and it routes to repeater "X", good 
so far. Now another station on a remote gateway, servicing repeater "Z", has 
"MY EOC" set and keys her microphone. The remote gateway dutifully updates the 
central data servers that "EOC" is now on repeater "Z" and sends an advisory 
notice to your local gateway of this information. Your local gateway says, oh, 
"EOC" has moved, I'll update my hashtable, now the station at repeater "X" keys 
with "UR EOC" and the gateway dutifully routes it to remote repeater "Z" ... 
ooops!

As I said before, the radio should ID its official callsign ... solving this 
problem. Certainly, my aforementioned alternatives would allow net or event 
participants to still use "tactical callsigns", an accepted practice in 
emergency communications. The use of "tactical callsigns" does not relieve a 
station of the responsibility of identifying his transmissions with his own 
callsign, so using the official station callsign in the MY field also frees the 
operator from having to remember to ID when in the heat of action during an 
event.


As a repeater trustee, one would have the responsibility to follow rule (in the 
US) 97.113a4, if she is aware of such transmissions.


I would say the filters should be available at the gateway so that a trustee 
can have some management of its use, but they should be optional.

-- John, K7VE


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