Hi Bill,

That's not as straight forward of a question as one might think.

D-STAR really isn't about linking, in the same way that analog systems are "linked" -- which has its pluses and minuses.

The D-STAR "common air protocol" has an addressing scheme that has a notion of a source (MYCALL) station, a destination (URCALL, specific or general such as CQCQCQ), repeater 1 (RPT1), and repeater 2 (RPT2). The idea is that the source or originating station declares to whom s/he wants their transmission to be sent by setting a destination and optionally can include information about a first repeater and second repeater. For example, I could set my D-STAR address information to:

UR: CQCQCQ
MY: K7VE
RPT1: WD7STR B
RPT2: NR7SS  B

And if the ATM bridge (Icom's $10K 10 gHz. backbone system) was set up between the two site's controllers, my signal would be relayed via repeater WD7STR B to NR7SS B and would be a general call to anyone listening to either repeater, but they would not be linked, it would simply be signal switching. For someone to reach back to me from the NR7SS B side of things they would have to set their radio to:

UR: K7VE  (or CQCQCQ)
MY: N7XXX
RPT1: NR7SS  B
RPT2: WD7STR B

And their signal would traverse the switching back the other direction. This also work for two repeaters on the same same controller, e.g.:

UR: CQCQCQ
MY: K7VE
RPT1: K7LWH  C   [2 meters]
RPT2: K7LWH  B   [70 cm]

In all of these scenarios, signals traversed two repeaters but there was no linking.

The next approach is using the gateway, again there is no linking involved.

UR: N7XXX
MY: K7VE
RPT1: VE7VIC C   [2 Meters]
RPT2: VE7VIC G   [A "virtual" repeater called a gateway]

On the gateway, it looks up N7XXX and determines if any of the 400 or so other gateways on the Internet have seen N7XXX and switches my signal to that gateway, which in turn send my signal out the appropriate attached repeater. Again no linking, just signal switching. If someone made a "local" call through VE7VIC C, it would not be relayed beyond the repeater, even while I was calling the remote station. Lets suppose N7XXX was in Logan, UT, the signal would routed to the NU7TS G gateway, which in turn would send it out the NU7TS B [70 cm] repeater. I don't know that N7XXX is in Logan or what repeater he is on, it just doesn't matter, I just want to talk to him.

He would have to set up the return as:

UR: K7VE
MY: N7XXX
RPT1: NU7TS  B
RPT2: NU7TS  G

Note, N7XXX doesn't know what repeater I am on, just my callsign.

A variation of this is equivalent to CQCQCQ on a known remote repeater:

UR: /NU7TS B

But again this doesn't create a "link", it just tells the gateway where to switch the signals with this information in their headers.

The gateway software also has a notion of Multi-cast groups, where you can transmit on up to 10 repeaters simultaneously by using a designator setup up by the gateway administrator. Let's say the gateway admin creates a multicast group similar to this WWARPT (Western Washington Repeaters] and in that group he puts [WD7STR B, K7TUL B, NR7SS B, WA7FW B, K7LWH B]

Now if I setup:

UR:/WWARPT
MY:K7VE
RPT1:K7LWH  B
RPT2:K7LWH  G

My signal will show up on the 6 repeaters in the multicast group. (See Example at: http://www.ladstar.org/mc.htm)

This still uses native D-STAR routing, no "links" are created, the signals are just switched to these repeaters (up to 10) simultaneously and other stations wish to participate must program their radios similarly, such as:

UR:/WWARPT
MY:WA7DAD
RPT1:WA7FW  B
RPT2:WA7FW  G

Moving on from native D-STAR, there is the DPLUS "linking". DPLUS is an add-on written AA4RC and found on a majority of gateways.

Under DPLUS linking a few new scenarios arise, for brevity I'll just show the UR information, but you use RPT1 and RPT2 with the "G" repeater in RPT2.

UR:WA7FW BL     -- Link the local repeater to WA7FW  B

Every transmission on either repeater (local or remote) will be relayed to the other as long as the "G" (gateway) is in RPT2

There are also reflectors, you can hook as many repeaters to a reflector as the administrator of the reflector allows (usually based on available bandwidth) so:

UR:REF001CL   -- Link the local repeater to reflector REF001C

When linked to a reflector, signals on the local repeater will be repeated via the reflector to every other repeater that is also linked to that reflector, for stations that have the "G" gateway in the RPT2 field.


So the net of all of this is, on native D-STAR there is no linking. Using D-PLUS its how many repeaters do you want to link (using a reflector)?




On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Bill Cherepy wrote:


How many repeaters can Link to a single D-Star repeater at any one time?



Thanks,

Bill WB4WTN




John D. Hays
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