There are other reasons why the radio may generate a "beep."

The main one is loss of bit-sync.

Every 21st frame has 0x55 0x2d 0x16 at the end - if you generate these at 20 or 
22 frame intervals, sure enough, you get a beep.

If you miss several, you get a beep.

So, under weak conditions, you can hear more beeps as the radio struggles to 
re-sync the bit-stream.

Spoken from coding experience of someone who has spent the last 12 months 
counting in 12 bytes x 21 frames :-)

David

--- In [email protected], "Neil" <barrym...@...> wrote:
>
> The beeps are generated (by the radio) when it 'thinks' the signal being 
> recieved has finished, like a 'clear to send' request.  Due to our really 
> patchy coverage here in the UK, I experience many 'beeps' from the repeaters 
> stream, while it drops in and out of range, it has nothing to do with what 
> you are listening to, so same with simplex.
> 
> Neil.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nate Duehr" <n...@...>
> To: "Justin G0KSC" <jus...@...>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Beeps
> 
> 
> Technically this is also true.  The beeps are just an indication that
> signal has dropped, and a configurable feature on some of the rigs to
> turn it off or change its volume level from the speaker.
> 
> The information shown on the SCREEN however, is the actual
> "notification" about what the system thinks is going on.
> 
> 
> On Oct 14, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Justin G0KSC wrote:
> 
> >
> > I think you will find the bleeps are from your radio. The receiver
> > bleeps to notify you a DV signal has dropped, not the repeater. Try
> > a simplex QSO, this will confirm this for you.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robbie De Lise
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Beeps
> >
> >
> > As I experience it i think something like this:
> >
> > No beep: The repeater did not confirm your TX, prolly no RX on the
> > repeater side
> > 1st beep: The repeater (CALL A, B or C) confirms your TX
> > 2nd beep: The gateway (CALL G) confirms your TX.
> >
> > Ofcourse, when someone pushes the PTT right after the BEEP or before
> > the BEEP,
> > the repeater does not have the time to send the confirmation out.
> > (The confirmations are send seperately from the DV transmission)
> >
> > so:
> >
> > DV TX
> > stop TX
> > Confirm Repeater TX (BEEP)
> > stop TX
> > Confirm Gateway TX (BEEP)
> > stop TX
> >
> > if someone pushes the mike faster its like:
> >
> > DV TX
> > stop TX
> > Confirm Repeater TX (BEEP)
> > stop TX
> > DV TX
> > stop TX
> > Confirm Repeater TX (BEEP)
> > stop TX
> > Confirm Gateway TX (BEEP)
> > stop TX
> >
> > or even:
> >
> > DV TX
> > stop TX
> > DV TX
> > stop TX
> > Confirm Repeater TX (BEEP)
> > stop TX
> > Confirm Gateway TX (BEEP)
> > stop TX
> >
> >
> >
> > I could also be completely wrong :)
> >
> > Let me know if someone else has the same experience.
> >
> > 73s
> > Robbie
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Fran Miele <f...@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Several of the users on our system have been discussing the beeps
> > heard on a repeater and it is clear we really don't understand them.
> >
> >
> > I'm sure this has been asked many times before but I can't seem to
> > find a definite answer. Can someone explain the beeps that are heard
> > at the end of a transmission on a repeater? Sometimes there are two,
> > sometimes one and sometimes none.
> >
> >
> > What do they mean, and why the variation?
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> >
> > Fran, W1FJM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Nate Duehr
> n...@...
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