I like the comment myself, as I played with setting up and ad-hoc LTR Ham
system
in the radio shop once.... for fun and giggles.... 
 
I had thought about doing the HAM LTR using 900 MHz. endless brain thoughts
going on here.....
 
 
 

Evans F. Mitchell
KD4EFM / WQFK-894

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of dlake02
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: New guy


  

Nice idea, but unworkable in D-Star due to the fact that it's a single
carrier system.

If you take a real trunked system like MPT1327, trunked P25 or TETRA, then
there multiple carriers per site (or timeslots in the case of TETRA) to
allow multiple calls. 

In D-Star, there can only be one session at a time per repeater.

You would need some contention system to handle multiple users.

For example, if the repeater you appeared on was linked to D-Plus, would you
unlink it ? When would you re-link ? What if a QSO was in progress ? 

Don't get me wrong - I like the idea. But D-Star uses the wrong radio access
method to make it work.

David

--- In dstar_digital@ <mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, John Hays <j...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Nate Duehr wrote:
> 
> > On 1/22/2010 4:03 PM, Neil wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Wouldn't it be nice if say, a group of people around the country 
> >> (or world even), could put a special call in the UR field and 
> >> everyone in that group would have their traffic automatically 
> >> routed to all the other members, bit like a multicast I suppose, 
> >> but not much fun if the local repeater was already in use.
> >> (That's where G3 'could' come in handy, sending a message instead 
> >> to the members radio on that repeater, underneath the QSO without 
> >> hindering the other users...then you could switch to another 
> >> repeater/node and continue.)
> >>
> >> I suppose you could subscribe to a 'multicast group', something 
> >> like a reflector that handles instantaneous multiple connections.
> >>
> >> Food for thought...
> >>
> >> 73 de Neil G7EBY
> >
> > The commercial digital world calls this "talk groups" and has had it 
> > for at least a decade.
> >
> > An Amateur talk group system would need to come up with a way to 
> > "self-register" with a particular talk group.
> >
> > Could be done. Interesting concept.
> >
> > Nate WY0X
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> Once we have an open source gateway, its pretty easy. My 
> understanding is that the RP2C sends any transmission with something 
> in RPT2 to the gateway (doesn't have to just be "call G" --- there 
> are a couple of syntax that could be used.
> 
> UR: TG00000R (Register)
> MY: K7VE
> RPT1: NW7DR (Module number isn't required by the protocol, but may be 
> required for RP2C)
> RPT2: GATEWAY
> 
> With UR:TG00000U (UnRegister)
> 
> The gateway would have a list of active talkgroups and register itself 
> to the talkgroup server (like a reflector) for two way transmission 
> relay -- no need for a "link"
> 
> Another syntax:
> 
> UR: xxxxxxxx (usually CQCQCQ or -------U to Unregister)
> MY: K7VE
> RPT1: NW7DR
> RPT2: TG00000 (Gateway will register for talkgroup if not already 
> registered, keep a list of local callsigns in the group and unregister 
> when the last sends the unregister or times out)
> 
> Arbitration of multiple talk groups on a single repeater frequency is 
> the main downside.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John D. Hays
> Amateur Radio Station K7VE
> PO Box 1223
> Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 VOIP/SIP: j...@...
> Email: j...@...
>




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