John, 

 

I agree it seems like a bad design.

I fully understand that everyone is a volunteer, I've waited patiently for
three weeks to see if they come back up. And tried to contact them first.

 

I do indeed wish to do call sign routing (including demonstrations to non
Dstar users).

I also wish to register them separately due to the closed nature of the
repeaters and reflector choice (I have no problems with repeaters
restricting this feature) and the amount of time it takes to update a call
sign location. For example, I currently run my ID80 (KB2BSL) and ID1 (KB2BSL
A) at the same time. The different ports (A,B,C) of local repeaters are
connected to different reflectors. If I were to use the same call sign, each
transmission would trigger an update showing me bounce between systems and
ports. This has the potential to have my last heard and where I really am go
out of synch very easily, and it creates unnecessary traffic and resource
allocation of the servers. I believe this is why you are allowed to register
up to eight "terminals", so one may do things such as I wish.

 

This has been working fine for me for about a year on two radios, and I
would like to add an 880 to the mix in the same way.

 

I know this all may sound a bit silly, but I hope people understand what I
am trying to accomplish.

 

Thanks

Gary

KB2BSL

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of John Hays
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Home repeater no longer exists on the
network, what to do?

 

  

Aside from the stupidity of RF based callsign registration (it's a bad
design), you do have to update your multiple "terminals" from the gateway
that you are registered on (also a bad design).  The only way to effectively
solve this is to have your registration deleted, which if the K2DIG people
can't do it can only be accomplished by the Trust Server team, and then
reregister with another system.

 

It further points to the responsibility that goes with operating a gateway
with registration -- you can't just turn things off, you must go through the
process of de-registering everyone on your gateway (after notifying them
that you are doing so and giving them instructions on how to re-register).

 

We also need the Trust Admins to be responsive to cleanup needs.

 

REMEMBER EVERYONE INVOLVED ARE VOLUNTEERS, IT MAY TAKE A WHILE.

 

Now to the basic question.

 

If you are going to be operating multiple radios at the same time, they
still can have the same callsign, unless you are doing something that
requires callsign routing (while using them at the same time):

if you are using DPLUS linking, it just doesn't matter, 

if they are listening to the same repeater, it just doesn't matter,

if you are doing cross module repeating, it just doesn't matter,

only if you need to address the radio does it matter.

 

On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Gary wrote:





 

Ted, I am already registered. I wish to modify my existing registration to
add additional terminals.

I have always been under the assumption that this needs to be done from your
"home".

I'll try another gateway and see if I can access my information.

 

Thanks

Gary

KB2BSL

 

John D. Hays
Amateur Radio Station K7VE <http://k7ve.org> 
PO Box 1223
Edmonds, WA 98020-1223

VOIP/SIP: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]

 



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