On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Nate Duehr wrote:

On 3/12/2010 11:08 AM, John Hays wrote:

I would avoid the complexity of domain names as you outline here. The bandwidth of the D-STAR DD stream doesn't bode well for supporting "server" applications at the "last mile" ID-1.
If you mean putting the server application at the ID-1 end of things, absolutely right. That'd suck.

I was speaking of putting that functionality in the Gateway/Router/ whatever you want to call it.

(You're saying you're "creating" the concept of a DD Router, when that's exactly what the Gateway is doing with DD packets already -- just a very poor implementation. I would NOT want an ADDITIONAL fragile PC up at the repeater site to handle DV and DD separately. That's a poor use of both hardware resources (two machines where one can easily do this job) and human resources (two machines will break twice as often, and require site visits commensurately - doesn't follow the KISS principal.)...

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Nate WY0X

No, I'm saying we create a D-STAR router, a router that routes based on D-STAR callsigns/addresses -- DD Ethernet packets are just a payload and a D-STAR router need not concern itself with them at all. No additional "mountain top" PC is required either; the networking interface can be on the router as well, or the D-STAR router can route the DD payload to a Callsign (Address) at some other location where it can be de-encapsulated and managed at a network level. Once one quits trying to marry D-STAR to IP protocol (other than as a transport between D-STAR routers) then it merely moves bits from one Callsign/ Address to another and allows those endpoints to deal with the complexities of whether its AMBE (DV) or Ethernet (DD) - including IP, IPX, XNS, DecNet, whatever. Those D-STAR endpoints can be radios or services (DV Dongles, Network Servers, etc.), it just doesn't matter to the router.




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