On Mar 17, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Woodrick, Ed wrote:

> 1 In the interest of full disclosure. If you kerchunk and set the one-touch, 
> you will be able to talk, but the RPT2 gateway will not be set. If you hit 
> the one touch while someone else is talking, the RPT2 gateway will get set. 
> If the RPT2 gateway is not set, changing one character in a callsign is a 
> simple procedure that takes about 5 seconds.

Actually you don't have to hit one-touch at all, on some of the rigs, if 
auto-program of the RPT fields is turned on, which is the default for most of 
the rigs out of the box, but highly not-recommended for anything past your 
first local contact, since it doesn't play properly with D-PLUS and Reflector 
operation.

> 3Many people can’t program their radios from the keyboard for an FM repeater. 
> So for some, this is a moot argument. It helps to actually understand what a 
> repeater’s frequency, offset, mode, and tone are, but again, not everyone 
> knows. For these “appliance operators” preprogrammed memories like Mark’s are 
> a mechanism to simplify something that could be dramatically simplified. A 
> consensus opinion could easily have a mechanism that would allow 
> preprogrammed radios work worldwide. But oh yeah, that would require a 
> consensus opinion just like Open Source Development would!  J

Actually that's a problem of the manufacturers, since they usually control the 
programming interface on the rig, the programming software itself is typically 
contracted out to a company with exclusive rights, and has nothing to do with 
Open Source at all.  Reverse-engineering has proven that radio programming 
software for D-STAR rigs is possible, or we wouldn't have Dan's software that 
does just that... and it's Open Source.  You're mixing unrelated things in your 
statement, making it inaccurate and misleading, giving the impression that 
radio programming software is commonly hampered by "Open Source".  The Open 
Source "hamlib" library is available and covers tons of radios that have remote 
*operations* capabilities also, something Icom doesn't provide on any of the 
D-STAR rigs, even though it's a common standard on their HF rigs, and has been 
for many years.  An EASY to use laptop-based user interface would have been 
simple to develop if they'd included their own CI-V protocol with extensions 
for D-STAR data needed, like the callsign routing information.  Rumors indicate 
that CI-V is a part of the *repeater* programming, and one German ham wrote 
Open Source software to read/write that data also.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[email protected]



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