Hi Jim,

Although frequency co-ordination is a necessary evil too much power 
absolutely corrupts as in the case of repeater co-ordination groups.  If 
there is a large enough group of people that want to put up D-Star 
repeaters and you can prove that a frequency pair has not been used for 
over a year I believe a legal challenge would be appropriate.  There are 
too many people that own pairs that want to sell them and I do not 
believe that should be allowed.  If a repeater is off the air for over a 
year then they should lose their co-ordination.  This is something that 
should also be put in a form of a Docket for FCC ruling.

73 de K1EG
Mike

J. Moen wrote:
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> There's little chance of D-Star repeaters replacing analog repeaters 
> in northern California, and I suspect that's true in many places in 
> the US.  The voting members of our frequency coordination organization 
> are people who have coordinated repeaters, and of course virtually all 
> of those are analog repeaters.  In parts of the region covered by this 
> organization, and in particular, the greater San Francisco Bay Area, 
> all available 2 meter pairs have been assigned, and in the same 
> region, due to the Pave Paws military radar site, repeaters on the 70 
> cm band must run at unusably low power levels.
>  
> Recently the coordinators looked at several proposals to refarm 2 
> meters, to create parts of the band that could take advantage of 
> narrow band modes (this would include D-Star).  Some ideas were very 
> carefully crafted to minimize the number of analog repeaters affected 
> and how much the few that would need to move would have to move, to 
> keep down costs.
>  
> The voting members -- again made up almost entirely of people who run 
> analog repeaters -- voted down all proposals, then passed another 
> motion prohibiting the issue from being raised for three years.
>  
> During the debate, when there were comments made about the large 
> number of paper repeaters, or unused repeaters, or very lightly used 
> analog repeaters, there were angry reactions that amounted to "I have 
> this pair, and you can't take it away from me." 
>  
> I am sympathetic to one argument -- some repeaters exist for EmComm 
> situations, and of course, for the occassional training nets.  Those 
> repeaters need to be available.  But there seems no interest in 
> sharing those pairs with other repeaters that might be more active, 
> but which would shut down for EmComm training nets or actual emergencies.
>  
> Bottom line -- in this area at least, coordinations will not be pulled 
> from existing analog repeaters any time soon, no matter how little 
> utilized they are.  It's just the nature of the Bylaws of the 
> frequency coordination organization about who gets to vote, and human 
> nature to not want to change.
>  
> Surprisingly, most of those people carry a digital radio around in 
> their pocket each day, having replaced their analog cell phone with a 
> digital one years ago.  But digital for ham radio?  -- No way.
>  
>    Jim - K6JM
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