On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Paul Cherubini wrote:
> Kris Feldmann wrote:
> > 7.1 was
> > slower and less stable than 7.6, to the point that I've wiped the Duo and
> > reinstalled 7.6.
>
> I disagree.What, exactly was "slower" about 7.1?
It seemed to me that backgrounding, task switching and other
"multi-tasking" issues gave more of a slow, pulsing performance. I found
myself waiting, unable to click on anything or use then menus far more
often than in 7.6. I also had one strange problem with 7.1 which I
couldn't solve: If *any* applications were running when the Duo fell
asleep, it would crash the Finder upon waking.
> I use 7.1
> on all my 030 and 040 Macs because I am sick on the long boot time
> and sluggishness of 7.5.5 and 7.6.1 that developes after a few weeks of use.
I totally agree about boot time, which was one of my reasons for trying
7.1 in the first place. This was somewhat nullified, however, by
installing CFM, Battery Tools, Update 3.0, Duo Enabler 2.0, etc. all of
which extended the boot time. I just bit the bullet and decided that the
longer boot and higher RAM usage are worth the benefits for me. I trim off
all the "fat" from 7.6, so I'm not loading all the junk which I don't
need. I don't find that anything slows down after a few weeks of use. I
make sure to turn off things which "grow" over time. Also, I don't use
Virtual Memory.
> I rarely have a crash or freeze with 7.1 and if I do I can be back in business
> in 20 seconds (not 1-2 minutes like with 7.6).
>
> >The newer OS benefits from years of bug-fixing and
> > refinement. It allows the use of OpenTransport which is a lot faster and
> > more reliable than MacTCP, Code Fragment Manager which allows the use of
> > Netscape 4.08, etc. Overall, 7.6 seems to run much smoother and crash much
> > less often.
>
> Disagree again. Open Transport 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 will run on any 7.1 machine
> (with 030 & 040 processors).Netscape 4.08 will also run on a 7.1 machine
> if one installs the CFM Runtine Enabler 4.0 extension (free download from
> Apple's web site).
>
> I also disagree that MacTCP is slower than Open Transport. What exactly
> is "slower" about it? If there is a difference reliability (doubtful) it is minor.
Admittedly, many of my issues are probably more with MacTCP than with 7.1
itself. I didn't try OT with 7.1. I noticed right away that typing in a
Niftytelnet window was noticeably slower under MacTCP than with OT. I also
had several hangs using 7.1/MacTCP 2.0.6 which I don't have under 7.6/OT
1.1.2.
> Incidentally, the fastert internet Mac I have is a lowly Mac LC with
> system 6.0.7, MacTCP 2.0.6, MacPPP 2.0.1 and Eudora Light 1.3.1.
> By "fast" I mean I can boot the machine, dial and connect to the internet
> and be reading my email in about 50 seconds. Try that on a 500 megahertz
> G4 with system 9.0.4!
Agreed. You and I have different goals, however, in that I define "fast"
as meaning that I can SSH to six different servers with Niftytelnet while
a web page loads in the background and still switch to MacVIM and type
without having to "stare at the watch." I usually make coffee while my
machine is booting, but thereafter I don't expect it to crash during the
day at all. I also use many apps at once and switch between them often.
I also found that with 7.1 I couldn't stop and start Appletalk at will. It
required a reboot. Remember I'm using this on a Duo, so I often want to
unplug the machine and take it into a meeting or whatever. I really don't
want to have to reboot in order to regain my Appletalk connections.
This is an interesting issue for me and if I had more time I'd make some
more quantitative tests, but for now I have to just go with what "works
for me."
Kris Feldmann
http://rotted.com/
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