Tom and Lisa Peters wrote:
>
> >
> >/usr/bin/Flame_Retardant_Pants &
> >
> >Take back the comendation, I only have a 68k mac. I cannot run OSX,
>
> Get real. You have no expectation of ever doing so. BSD is not OS X.
>
> >ever. And the problem is, that on the duo series, ppc or 68k no one can.
>
> Well, the hardware is showing its age, isnt it ? Why arent you mad
> that you cant run OS 9 on your duo 270c ?
>
> >Everything below a G3 need not apply. You probably should at least know
> >this about BSD. It can run happily on a 68k. Why does OSX require a G3
> >if it uses the same core? I am first and foremost a systems programmer.
>
> Mac OS 1 and OS 9 use the same core, right ? Dont try running OS 9
> on your mac plus.
>
> >What Apple has done makes me want to puke. B-E-T-A as you put it, is a
> >near stable release, meaning that only minor changes are expected before
> >a full release. Removing OS9 and putting in some other form of
> >compatibility would be a MASSIVE undertaking. We can deduce that OSX-GM
> >will have the same reqs as the beta. I would point all of this out to
> >apple, if I could run OSX, but since I run Linux on an Intel x86 as my
> >primary machine, and my Duo PB 280c is not enough to run OSX, I dont
> >believe that I had a right to make reports to Apple about it. I simply
> >wanted to point out to the list why I believe that OSX has major
> >problems.
> >
>
> Of course it has problems now.. thats why it s a public beta. Why
> dont you give it a few months and see how it shakes out.
>
Ugh. Ok heres is the fast and quick list of what I think:
1. OSX = Darwin = Mach OS Kernel = Net/Open/Free BSD kernel
2. NetBSD runs on 68k, OpenBSD runs on 68k, whats wrong with darwin?
3. Unix is a huge departure from traditional MacOS design, and I don't
think
that Apple has considred all of the angles, such as how developers
are
going to feel when most of their tools become useless, or how are
MacOS
users going to get used to things like the /dev
(directory/filesystem,
depends on your flavor of unix).
4. I know that the 68k is old, and so is the PPC, but they are by no
means
useless. The 68k still kicks the butt of any CPU at the same clock
speed,
thanks to ideas like memory mapped IO, and buss mastering. I think
that
Apple should consider at least giving the information away to linux
and BSD
developers on the internal hardware configuration, so that those
ports can
be made fully functional, and even more so if Apple is going to base
OSX on
a Unix kernel themselves. (I know this dosn't have to much to do with
the
OSX topic, but what the heck, might as well get flamed for something
good :) )
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