What in the world is this trash you speak of my favorite MUG?!!!  $20 is a
very reasonable price to get an old Mac working again.  Even I can afford it
(And I'm unemployed)!

NO offense, but I'm most certain that Nutscrape 4 or something will run on a
Mac512 Macine.  Upgrade it as far as possible...if you can get to a download
page.

I do agree with you on the old mac on the web thing.  It's pretty confusing.
Fortunately, I use an iBook and an iMac DV.

Don't shun Mac512 because you had some little misunderstandings with their
site.

>> For TWENTY DOLLARS! This is why I don't like Mac User Groups.
>> Money is their top priority, not education. They only things they teach
>> are what they want you to know - not the things that will make you as
>> competent as they are. For example, The Mac 512 User Group
>> won't teach people the simple procedure to make a 7.1 Installation
>> Diskette set specific for the Duo out of any 7.1 set that may be lying
>> around the house.
>> 
>> I never got much out of the The Mac 512 User Group. To begin with,
>> the website would crash my Netscape 2.02 browser as would the Jags
>> House vintage Mac website. Incredibly, the owners of these vintage
>> Mac websites fail to make their websites compatible with older browsers!
>> Actually this is not too surprizing considering one finds the owners of
>> these vintage Mac websites really don't spend much time on the web with
>> the vintage Macs they purport to love - they are using G'3 & G'4 and
>> system 8.6 or 9.0.4 at home with Netscape 4.x or IE 5.x!
>> 
>> Then there are other fustrations galore. I once went to the Mac
>> 512 User Group site to find Stuffit Expander to use on my 7.1 Mac.
>> All the site provided was version 5.x of Stuffit
>> Expander which is incompatible with system 6 .x 7.0 or 7.1! (as
>> I learned the hard way since they don't tell you).
>> 
>> Then look at their "how to get your vintage Mac on the web" mess.
>> Instead of teaching the step by step procedure of how to get
>> a vintage Mac on the web they force you to download a
>> "package" deal of connection software and browser or email client
>> THEY FEEL you should use. So you really don't learn how to
>> download, install and configure your own internet setup.
>> 
>> In a nutshell, you don't learn much because what they teach
>> is guided by underlying business agendas. Fortunately, there
>> are a few, unglamourous web sites out there that won't
>> crash your older browser and WILL teach you the insider
>> tricks and are completely free of underlying agendas. My
>> favorite is Gamba's site: http://www.accesscom.com/~gamba/.
>> This site is nothing but pure help - manuals, boot disks,
>> systems, browers, you name it plus hold your hand step
>> by step procedures. All for free and the web site owner uses
>> a IIci with system 7.1!
>> 
>> Paul Cherubini


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