>However I find fault with the idea that we should have blind loyalty 
>to a business that chooses to support the 2400. It's a business and 
>as soon as they decide cardbus is not worth the bother, it'll be 
>dropped and then what?
>
>I aggree that we should support vendors that support the 2400, but 
>the cardbus activation is a hack that would surely void Apple's 
>warrenty were it in place. To critisize someone for reverse 
>engineering someone elses hack seems inconsistant, which makes the 
>ethical argument somewhat baseless.

It was never an issue of blind loyalty, nor was I critical of the 
investigation of the procedure. What alarmed me was:

1. An on-list request for look at an MCE modified 2400c for the stated
        purpose of copying their work and undercutting their business.
        I have *no problem* with anyone doing the work, research and
        testing, but just to compare and copy, specifically to damage
        a business *is* ethically dubious in my book.

I know that MCE did a lot of work and research to come up with the 
cardbus activation procedure... I know because I helped them. I don't 
begrudge Kevin whatever small profit he gets from the procedure, 
because I know he earned it. However that said, I do NOT believe that 
MCE has any sort of monopoly on the procedure at all. *But if you are 
going to compete with them head to head, the only ethical way to do 
it would be to 'clean room' the procedure, NOT directly copy it.*


2. The poster's lack of knowledge about what he was doing.
        There were at least 4 rev's of the 2400c MB (maybe more...
        'Rev D' is the 'highest' I have encountered to date), but it was
        obvious to me that this guy had only seen and tried two.


3. The last issue, which Paul Vail & I discussed off-list, was one of 
trust. I've been on this list for 4+ years. Paul has been on here 
that long or longer. MCE has been an active supporter of the 2400c 
since day 1. I had *no* idea who this 'LifeIzCool/Calvin' person was 
beyond his/her email address... and a look through my archive of this 
list puts the request to see an MCE-modified 2400c the fourth post 
from that address ever (with #1 being three weeks ago), and the first 
discussion thread started by that address. That was a third strike 
for me.   In subsequent off-list discussion it has become obvious 
that the original poster is a minor, which explains much about 
discretion and judgement.



Yeah, I totally went off the handle, and my tone was less than 
friendly that night. (I should have been asleep instead of playing 
catch-up with list traffic.) Apologies for tone have been exchanged 
off-list, but I'm sure the points I raised above, especially #1 & #2, 
are still true.

--chuck goolsbee
geek wrangler,   digital.forest inc,   bothell, wa  <http://www.forest.net>
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