On 4/14/02 Dan K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sydney, your method of changing systems on the same volume is abit more
> complicated than it needs to be. All you have to do is drag the currently
> active system folder's System file to the desktop, close that window,
> then open the window of the system to which you wish to switch. That
> blesses that folder, then close that folder window, select the 'old'
> System file sitting on the desktop and "Put Away" or cmd-Y it back to
> it's normal abode.

> _Or_ even easier . . . you could use "System Picker" or "Switcher" to do
> the same thing, much simpler of course than all the opening, closing and
> dragging about.

Correct, but (can be) unreliable. I also have the software system switchers
for years. The reason I suggested the particular way onlist is because it's
the most positive way. Perhaps you are lucky, but I've had problems on
certain computers with blessed systems becoming "unblessed", and in such a
case I do not want random selection of another system. I've also seen
problems where System Folders would not stay blessed, even when going into
the System file itself, or running/re-running DW2.1 to especially "bless"
the *d*mn* recalcitrant system (and where every diagnostic failed to find
problems w/System itself and where prefs were trashed). Since my
G3-400/112mb/48gb 2400 is my traveling computer I leave nothing to chance
and have multiple redundancies, internally and externally.

> Messing about with all types of Macs, I almost always have several
> systems on each boot volume, the only problem (?) I've come across is my
> inability to remember OS7 cannot use volumes formatted as HFS+.

That's fine, but I only keep one system on each of my boot drives (also due
to multiple CC8 controlled boot configurations for each OS), again, just
because of bless/unbless issues. The fattest OS are 550-600 mb, lean ones
under 100 mb. Everything to configure resides on my repair/installer/backup
diagnostic drive. The 68k loaded 7.6.1 is BLAZINGLY fast on a G3-2400. I
can't believe how fast the older leaner apps of its time run too, but it's
lost with HFS+ (it's kept for a novelty, along with a few Now Utilities
which gives "OS 8.x functionality").
> 
> Oh yeah, addressing the original question, which iirc was should one use
> 9.1 or 8.6,  I've found 9.1 runs quite satisfactorily on my PB1400c/183,
> it seems to be more responsive than 8.6 and faster too. I haven't done
> any sort of testing to confirm that though. 9.1 has much less 68K code
> than any sys 7 or 8, so in theory _should_ be faster. I will admit
> however 9.1 is slower to boot, not as much an issue on PBs which usually
> are only sleeping between uses.

I've always run RD/SD on 8.6 or lower and RD/Copy Agent on 9.1. Since the
Connectix 68k emulator in PPC was always faster than Apple's, as was its
Finder copy (by far), and since RamDoubler always worked far better for me
than Virtual Memory (never getting out of memory messages, even with a
battery of Microsloth apps and 10-15 other apps on a 2400 all open
simultaneously)--the net result is a much smoother/speedier 8.6. In a non-G3
1400c, it is possible the much slower PPC 603 will "exaggerate" differences
in PPC/68k code. (BTW I thought 1400c's only went to 166--iirc, if you're
using a Newer 183 upgrade, they supplied a very crippled cache which made it
unnecessarily slower, which again could theoretically "magnify" 8.6/9.1
differences).

The other reason I use 8.6 is that my GV 56k modem at one of my two crucial
locations is rock solid and fast, holding the connection for hours (whereas
my preferred Psion is erratic there, despite many script experiments). My GV
doesn't run on 9.1 (which requires a full RD re-install every time I change
off of it, unlike 8.6) and I don't feel like hassling the GV upgrade. ADSL
is coming next month, finally, to my part of Switzerland so this will be
moot. The Psion otherwise works great on both 8.6 and 9.1.

Sidney Ho



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