>My presumption is that the "pin-up" used by the Germans is different 
>from that used here.  In other words the connection is not going  to 
>the two

No, the small RJ-11 Western jacks (if you find them in Germany, not 
very common yet, our old monopoly phone company preferred their own 
proprietary, chunkier TAE plugs) have the exact same pinout as 
everywhere else -- as long as it's an analog line!

Usually ISDN uses the bigger RJ-45 plugs everyone knows from 
10Base-T, but I guess you found one of those embarrasing 
installations where they used the smaller (analog type) plug for ISDN.

I visited the Grand Hyatt in Berlin some weeks ago. We had a suite 
(Huge! Got it cheaper, though ;-)), with a nice, small desk in one 
corner that looked like a desk for getting your work done. So I put 
my 2300 there and looked for the modem plug. There was a phone on the 
desk, so I supposed there would be *some* phone jack somewhere. No 
jack, the phone cable just disappeard behind the closet.

Well, after some phone calls with the hotel staff and some trying out 
I found out that the actual analog jack was right where the mini-bar 
was, so I would have needed a 6 meter cable or something across the 
room to connect the Duo. And all they got was a 3 meter cable. 
Remember, that was in a *suite* in the *brand-new* Hyatt in the heart 
of the German *capital*, and still they F***ED up badly...

Anyway, while trying out every damn jack in the suite I plugged my 
2300 in the ISDN plug. There were some weird, "digital" sounding 
noises coming from the "modem speaker", but no harm done. I wouldn't 
say it's safe to to this, though, just that I was lucky enough...

Steffen
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