Hi,

> Neither do I. Can e.g. dvdauthor handle subtitles at all?

Yes, most definitely -- although AFAIK "only" in vobsub format, it
doesn't do any conversions.

> Not as far as I know. And we don't want the normal teletext part anyway,
> because it's not related to the program.

Certainly some pages are related to the program -- especially the
subtitle pages (quite common in Germany -- not sure about other
countries).

> What makes things worse is that
> teletext streams come in several varieties, and each of them may include
> different substreams. In order to find the interesting parts, we have to
> analyze all the data.
> 
> And that's still not the whole picture. There are also the so-called DVB
> subtitles (yet another stream format),

Totally uncommon in Germany, but support for that is already in
current ffmpeg (see dvbsubdec.c).

> and subtitles may also be hidden
> inside one of the other streams, as private/ancillary data. As far as I
> know, that's usually clear text that has to be rendered by the decoder,
> while DVB and teletext subtitles come pre-rendered (in incompatible
> formats, of course).

Fortunately, there is already a mature, free, not too bloated library
which computes the rendered text pages: libzvbi.

> Of course you also need to consider the required output format for DVD.
> I haven't found any complete description yet, so anybody implementing
> subtitles may have to use a trial-and-error approach (and will have a
> lot of troub^H^H^H^H^Hfun).

That was/is not really that hard.  vobsub output for DVD is already in
current ffmpeg, please check out dvdsubenc.c.  I also have the
conversion ready as an ffmpeg decoder (using libzvbi), so I can
generate DVD subtitles from teletext pages.  I'll try to see what I
can come up with for dvbcut.

Regards,
Wolfram.


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