bleagh well, my previous email to this list seems to have been rejectded by a moderator possibly.
Anyway I just have to say that, yes cdrecord-prodvd has recorded to +R media for a long time, but i agree 100% with Bryan here, the results from cdrecord-prodvd and pioneer drives were absolute RUBBISH crecord-prodvd and pioneer drives have made dvd burning a HELL for me for the last 2 years. It INFURIATES me, first that Pioneer, and 2nd that this Jorg guy can claim their hadrware/software supports +R when the results are such absolute crap. If you do a verify of what has been written, like I do, you find there are errors on so many discs its it horrifying. And i am talking about doing the verify immediately after burning, so its not dust or scratches on the disc that has caused the verify error. So I would say, to anyone: 1) get an LG drive 2) if u wanna use +R media, use growisofs, cdrecord-prodvd is ok for -R, but forget doing +R with it. It CAN be done, probably, like Bryan says using some -R emulation mode of the drive, but the results are completely unreliable, even with GOOD verbatim media. growisofs, LG, and +R -- for those who want to know the bare minimum required to burn DVDs hassle-free - that should do it. Or, for windows users... just get LG drive and u cant go wrong as long as u get good +R media. On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:49 am, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 10:48 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > Pioneer A106. I.e. not Ricoh. > > Pioneer is _not_ a DVD+RW firmware drive. > It is a DVD-RW firmware drive. > > And Pioneer produces very _poor_ DVD+R media as a result. > I think we've been through this. > > It wouldn't surprise me if your A106 is recording to the DVD+R in an > _improper_ way, using the DVD-R approach -- which is why Anand (under > Windows no less) had such poor results in his review of the 06 series a > few months back with DVD+R in Pioneer DVD-RW drives. > > > Yes. Very. > > Then the Pioneer must be putting the DVD+RW in DVD-R emulation mode, > something Sony/Philips _never_ supported. > > DVD-RAM and DVD-RW can do such. > > > And look, here, the software agrees with me too: > > Current: DVD+RW > > Profile: DVD+R > > Profile: DVD+RW (current) > > Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite > > Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite > > Profile: DVD-R sequential recording > > Profile: DVD-ROM > > Profile: CD-RW > > Profile: CD-R > > Profile: CD-ROM > > That's just the software reporting what the _drive_ says it supports, > *NOT* whether or not these formats can be written to. > > > Jörg writes about -prodvd in the README dated Aug 2004 (and Oct 05): > > only. This is the reason why support for DVD+R/RW did appear > > first at 14.4.2003 in cdrecord-ProDVD. These drives use a completely > > different command set and completely different usage paradigmas. As I > > received the DVD+R/RW drive samples too late for the 2.0 release > > (although developer samples have been available more than 6 months > > earlier) DVD+ support is only available in release 2.01. The way I read > > that is that the software is expected to burn DVD+R(W) media in those > > drives capable of doing so. So my advice that it's expected to work was > > correct (whether I've read the -prodvd manual or not). > > You keep mixing concepts. I have tried to educate you on this, and how > drive support is rather varied. > > Once again, even Jorg gives it to you ... > > "These drives use a completely different command set and > completely different usage paradigmas." > > CD-R/DVD-R is recorded in byte-by-byte, impossible for DVD-RW, DVD+R and > DVD+RW. > > So the Pioneer must be putting the DVD+RW in DVD-R emulation mode. Good > luck with cross drive compatibility -- especially earlier DVD players! > > > Typical for people with an I-know-it-all attitude problem to not admit > > when they've been wrong. Especially when they've just let off a personal > > tirade on false grounds. > > I'm not "all knowing." > > You keep giving repeatedly *BAD* advise to new users based on your > *LIMITED* drive experience. > > I have just about _every_ LG GSA-408x/416x model _ever_ produced. I > know what these things can do. _______________________________________________ Dvdrtools-users mailing list Dvdrtools-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dvdrtools-users
