On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 22:30 +1030, John wrote: > Anyway I just have to say that, yes cdrecord-prodvd has recorded > to +R media for a long time, but i agree 100% with Bryan here, the > results from cdrecord-prodvd and pioneer drives were absolute > RUBBISH
Jorg has even commented as such. If the drive lets him use the same, -R command set to record +R, then it "functionally" works. But it doesn't mean it records +R as it should be. Pioneer's DVD-RW was the original and only drive Jorg supported in CDRecord 1.x (before ProDVD), which DVDRecord is largely based on. > It INFURIATES me, first that Pioneer, and 2nd that this Jorg guy > can claim their hadrware/software supports +R when the results > are such absolute crap. Well, I wouldn't blame Jorg. He's just supporting what "functionally" works on various drives. It's really the fact that DVD+RW (and +R) don't work like -R (or -RW in record emulation) -- both drive and media. Again, Pioneer's DVD-RW was the original and only drive Jorg supported in CDRecord 1.x (before ProDVD), which DVDRecord is largely based on. > If you do a verify of what has been written, like I do, you find there > are errors on so many discs its it horrifying. And i am talking about > doing the verify immediately after burning, so its not dust or scratches > on the disc that has caused the verify error. I would recommend you _avoid_ -RW and +RW for anything critical. The CDRecord set of programs were designed for how CD-R and DVD-R work, and you don't want to "record" to CD-RW, DVD-RW or DVD+RW in "emulation" mode. DVD+R works much like that from CDRecord as well. > So I would say, to anyone: > 1) get an LG drive Yes, and use the CDRecord programs with CD-R and DVD-R only. Avoid using DVD-RW in "record" emulation mode. I guess you _could_ use DVD-RAM in "record" emulation mode, but you don't need to since DVD-RAM is pre-formatted and directly usable. > 2) if u wanna use +R media, use growisofs, Excactly! You want to use use the kernel's block read/write access for DVD+RW (and DVD+R), which is what the drives (and media) were designed for. I believe all the new interactive GUI programs now use the kernel's block read/write access to do such anyway. I almost always record to -R (and rewrite to -RAM) so I'm not the expert on those programs. > cdrecord-prodvd is ok for -R, but forget doing +R with it. > It CAN be done, probably, like Bryan says using some -R emulation > mode of the drive, but the results are completely unreliable, even > with GOOD verbatim media. > growisofs, LG, and +R -- for those who want to know the bare minimum > required to burn DVDs hassle-free - that should do it. Or, for windows > users... just get LG drive and u cant go wrong as long as u get good +R > media. Thanx for the backup. I know I came off as a jerk, but I'm really just trying to help new people -- this person had a LG GSA series drive. And I really didn't want to get back into what had already been covered before, from someone else's experience with Pioneer -RW drives, dislike of CDRecord, etc... -- Bryan J. Smith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------ Some things (or athletes) money can't buy. For everything else there's "ManningCard." _______________________________________________ Dvdrtools-users mailing list Dvdrtools-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dvdrtools-users
