Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents

[N7MAL]

I've been doing a lot of searching through Gov't documents, which are accessible through the internet. It substantiated some very interesting, although well known, information. Amateur Radio is expressly prohibited on KP5 islands. Those of you who were active in the late 80's and early 90's remember those problems, and accusations. I will always remember some Gov't official both on the TV news and in the print media making a statement to the effect he had see cleaner garbage dumps than the conditions left behind by the ham-radio operators who were at KP5. As it turns out no one, especially a low-level bureaucrat, at F&W has the authority to give permission for ham radio at KP5. I  decided to reply to Zack's posting because he said: ""I do have some trust in the ARRL and believe they had a valid reason to OK the operation."". The ARRL has ACCREDITATION CRITERIA.  How about the recent P5 acceptance. There is no doubt the guy was there in P5 just like there is no doubt the KP5 guys were there. Just being there is NOT good enough.   SECTION III. ACCREDITATION CRITERIA b) In countries where Amateur Radio operation has not been permitted or has been suspended or where some reluctance to authorize amateur stations has been noted, authenticating documents may be required before accrediting an operation. c) Special permission may be required from a governmental agency or private party before entering certain DXCC Entities for the purpose of conducting amateur radio operations even though the Entity is part of a country with no amateur radio restrictions. Examples of such Entities are Desecheo I. (KP5); Palmyra I. (KH5), and Glorioso Islands (FR/G).   As I pointed out above, and I think it is pretty widely known, special permission for KP5 is just not routinely going to happen, it almost requires an act of Congress.     SECTION III. ACCREDITATION CRITERIA 4. These accreditation requirements are intended to preserve the integrity of the DXCC program and to ensure that the program does not encourage amateurs to "bend the rules" in their enthusiasm, possibly jeopardizing the future development of Amateur Radio. Every effort will be made to apply these criteria uniformly and to make a determination consistent with these objectives.   In the case of the recent P5 and most recent KP5 the rules were not just bent they were looped back around themselves. As I said once already, and was soundly criticized, my dues are paid up and I'm a full member of the ARRL. I want to see the special documents, as required, used to approve KP5. Otherwise don't use the words "integrity" and DXCC in the same sentence. Please don't tell me I can see the documents in Bernie's rag, I pay my dues to the ARRL not W3UR. 73       MAL       N7MAL BULLHEAD CITY, AZ http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm http://geocities.com/n7mal/ Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia     ----- Original Message ----- From: Zack Widup To: DX Chat Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:11 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote: > Forgive me for asking a stupid question and throwing water on > everyone's parade but has anyone published a copy of the documents, > signed by F&W, authorizing the KP5 operation...???... I have never seen ANY documents published showing that any given DXpedition was legal.  I am assuming the proper documents were submitted to ARRL.  Unlike some people, I do have some trust in the ARRL and believe they had a valid reason to OK the operation.  ARRL is not going to publish the documents. 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 3/13/2006