All right gang, once again, please tone it down. Tempers are starting to flare, and the only thing that I want to see with flares right now is the Sun.
73, ron w3wn administrator, dx chat -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of BKGarcia Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O & ARRL Mike -- And how did you conclude that eQSL is "worthless"...? That seems to be your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I'd just like to know how you came to that conclusion. Are you implying there is more fraud in the eQSL database than the DXCC system? If so, how do you know that? If there were fraud in the LoTW, do you think it would be readily exposed by HQ ARRL? I'm not confident it would be, and that's my opinion. And how valuable was the bandwidth you used to slam eQSL compared to the bandwidth others used to piss on the League? Inquiring minds want to know how you made that judgement. In my opinion eQSL is managed with as much integritry as LoTW and the DXCC program. eQSL has an incentive to avoid fraud if they are to be successful (i.e., earn the respect of the ham community while making money). I had to fax a copy of my FCC license to eQSL to register. Isn't that sufficient to avoid fraud? eQSL collects donations and fees. ARRL collects dues and fees. Where do you see a significant difference between eQSL and LoTW other than that the League and DXCC have been in business longer. You didn't slam the CQ Magazine equivalent of DXCC. Does that mean you accept that program? If so, why? What about the CQ WAZ program. 5 Band WAZ seems to me to be a significant achievement -- and you must get paper in hand to get credit, not just a database entry in LoTW. Hummmm.... I don't find any significant faults in the way ARRL administers the DXCC program. They seem to take it seriously and work to keep it up to date. I also don't find any fault with either eQSL or the CQ DX programs. All have their rules and they seem to stick to their respective rules. None of those programs are "worthless"........ in my opinion. Bert, N8NN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] 7O & ARRL > It's amazing how these discussions always evolve into ARRL bashing > sessions. All of this huffing & puffing and crying & moaning the blues > about how sorry ARRL is, but I never see anyone stepping up to the plate > to offer anything better. It's a very simple equation. If you don't like > the ARRL, that's fine. Don't participate in DXCC. Go participate in > something worthless like e-qsl, but please don't waste our time and > bandwidth pissing & moaning about the League. > > For me, I think they do an excellent job of managing a program that no-one > else has the courage(ba**s) nor finding to manage. > Get over it! > > 73, > Mike, W5UC > > > "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" > http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, [email protected] > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [email protected] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [email protected] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
