One of the tools available to any aggrieved customer today is a huge soapbox in 
the form of many reflectors that provide a widespread audience for gripes like 
Charlie's. As a Tech Support guy myself, I worry every day about this kind of 
thing. I think it's probably not a bad thing that these forums are available.  
It keeps me on my toes. It gives the customer some leverage to make sure 
companies pay attention. Can it be misused to make a mountain from a molehill? 
Of course it can. Can a customer wield this power unfairly or abusively? 
Certainly he can. But only a very small number will do so.... the vast majority 
will have a legitimate complaint. We all have to be careful not to "rush to 
judgement" and examine the facts presented from both sides before reaching any 
conclusions.  

I don't know all the facts in this case, or who is right or wrong, but the 
availability of this kind of forum is inescapable today, so we in the Customer 
Service and Tech Support business need to pay close attention and give the best 
answers we can the first time a customer asks.  We need to look at each 
customer as an important part of our business, one on which our company's 
future depends. And no matter how big or small a company may be, we need to 
remember it is built one customer at a time.

Just my two cents.....

73, Jerry K3BZ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Notarius W3WN 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:23 AM
  Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Ten Tec woes


  With all due respect to Charles, I find his recanting of this story, well, 
insufficient.  There has GOT to be a little more to the story!

  I am further disturbed, as a Ten Tec owner myself, that Charles did not take 
advantage of the excellent Ten-Tec reflector and the available help there.  I 
forwarded the gist of the message on to that reflector, and I know of at least 
one user who is willing to help him solve the problem.  

  But what bothers me most about this posting of his is the scattershot way it 
is sent to multiple reflectors, none of which are directly related to the 
manufacturer or user base, all damning the company because of a single 
incident.  And again, we've only heard one side of the story.

  And have you looked at the original message exchange that led to the rant?  
Charles detailed a problem and requested suggestions on how to repair it.  The 
Service Manager told him a likely cause.  Was it a terse reply?  Yes.  But -- 
without seeing the unit in person, what damage was caused, and most importantly 
without seeing what happened... what did you expect?

  Sorry Charles.  You have a right to be unhappy.  But your rant is, IMHO, way 
out of line and overblown.

  73
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DAVE WHITE
    Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:02 AM
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
    Subject: [DX-CHAT] Re: [DX-NEWS] Ten Tec woes


    Things must have changed dramatically since I last dealt with Tentec.  I 
had an Omni V back in about 1990 and had a problem with a switch board.  Tentec 
helped me to diagnose the problem and sent me a new board free of charge, I 
just had to pay the shipping.   They were extremely helpful with advice and 
technical literature.

    All part of a small company growing into a larger company and not having 
the organisational capability????

    Dave G0OIL

    Charles Harpole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
      Hello Paul, I am sorry to say your response is the winner of the MOST 
LAME 
      CUSTOMER SERVICE RESPONSE of the year, maybe the decade.

      This cap blow up problem is now on its THIRD occasion, with identical 
      symptoms, happening on Florida electrical AC power and now on a different 
      electrical power, WITH NO lightning anywhere within sight on any of the 
      occasions. In all cases, I monitor my AC power with a good meter all the 
      time, and have NEVER observed power spikes upward and only the usual 5 
volt 
      dip when the air con comes on. I know micro spikes and dips can occur, 
but 
      to think that such would cause a disk cermaic cap to blow up ON THE METER 
      SHUNT BOARD, borders on stupid given THREE breaker/fuse before that, etc 
      etc.

      I think this unit has a design flaw that you either do not know about or 
      want to ignore.

      Further, your company should be aware of the poor reputation your 
customer 
      contact history has. In my case, twice I have come close to ordering an 
      ORION, and after a brief query with your offices, have been put off by 
the 
      terse, simplistic answers. TEN TEC has some great products, but the co. 
      should ask itself, Why is it not a major power in the ham radio field? 
      Certainly, if you ask, I can tell you.

      Meanwhile, I see that I am on my own and that Ten Tec products are 
basically 
      sold "as is" and rapidly become orphans in the storm.

      Good luck, Ten Tec will need it.

      Charles Harpole
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]

      >From: "Paul Clinton" 
      >To: "Charles Harpole" 
      >Subject: Re: 425 amp query
      >Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:20:29 -0400
      >
      >Dear Charles:
      >
      >Probably caused by a surge on the AC line, possibly lightning.
      >
      >73,
      >Paul R. Clinton
      >WD4EBR
      >Service Manager
      >
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: "Charles Harpole" 
      >To: 
      >Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:40 AM
      >Subject: 425 amp query
      >
      >
      > > To: Oct. 22, 2007
      > > Ten-Tec, Inc.
      > > 1185 Dolly Parton Prky.
      > > Sevierville, TN 37862
      > >
      > > Hello Paul in Repair:
      > >
      > > My Ten Tec Titan 425 (first version), serial # 60A10120 was repaired 
in
      >your
      > > shop on Feb. 1, 2006, Invoice number 091959, order number 093150. At 
      >that
      > > time you repaired the Meter Shunt board and a number of other items. 
      >This
      > > was the second such failure in the life of this unit.
      > >
      > > Since receiving the unit, I have used it for about 30 hours and now 
have
      >the
      > > same failure again. A flat mica disk cap. on the meter shunt board is
      >blown
      > > open physically, and the 25 watt resistor in the power supply also 
      >burned
      > > up. My home breaker stopped further damage. This is the third failure.
      > >
      > > I am writing for suggestions for repair because this fault appears to 
be
      > > happening often in this product. I need advice because I do not want
      > > further factory $330. repair bills on a unit that appears to have a 
      >design
      > > fault.
      > >
      > > Please help.
      > >
      > > Charles Harpole
      > > K4VUD
      > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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