I'm not so sure, Rag. I think it's a cultural thing.

Go skiing in Europe then in Colorado.  Northern Europeans and Yanks stand in 
line (queueing to you and I but we have to be bilingual on an American 
reflector). Germans and Italians just form a big scrum whilst the Russians look 
like they'll club anyone else with a ski pole.

Germans almost shunt you out of the way at 150mph on the autobahn.

Listen to Italians around a dinner table. Everyone talks at once just like they 
do on the radio. Traffic laws in Italy are a joke. Traffic signals just change 
colour, that's all they do. Everyone ignores speed limits.

They're not being rude because they're lovely people and it's just not in their 
nature to be rude. We have lots of great friends in all those places, I just 
think there are cultural differences.

My Italian is as bad as my Spanish but I can still tell the difference between 
G0OIL and I1AAA or whatever no matter what the language.



-----Original Message-----
From: ragnar otterstad <[email protected]>
Sent: 26 January 2009 17:57
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island

> 
> I can see right now what's going to happen when they
> work Europe:
> 
> When the operator says quite clearly for the fifth time
> "Golf Nine Alpha Alpha Alpha five and nine", all
> the Italians will keep shouting their last two for ten
> minutes solid on the G9's frequency, overmodulating
> their 3kW amplifiers and without pausing for
> breath......even if they are in the log twelve times
> already.


Unfortunately, I think you are right.  Part of the problem is lack of proper 
understanding of English, which applies to all the latin countries, where films 
are dubbed. Up here, we have subtitles, so people get language lessons without 
even knowing it !!
> > 
> These guys are all pretty good operators and you'll
> have propagation akin to a telephone line on most bands
> nearly 24 hours per day from where you live.  Don't
> bother takin the time off work during the first week when
> the big guns will slug it out toe to toe, but you'll
> make it in the log easily enough during the second week. 
> If you wait till the band's closed to Italy,
> anyway....."Whiskey eight Tango Alpha Hotel five and
> nine".."ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY
> KILO ITALY KILO....."
> 
> If you're like me you concentrate on CW where there are
> fewer muppets....

There are some rotten apples even on CW these days , I am sorry to say !This 
applies in particular to some Eastern -Europeans countries and Balkan.

If they work split, which I am sure they will, things get easier when you have 
experienced operators at the DX-end.  F ex I rarely have to make more that 2-3 
calls to get a qso when f ex DL3DXX, G3SXW and others like them
are at the DX-end-  Even when the signals are marginal, which they often are up 
here in the North !
73  rag  LA5HE

>


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