Yes John I agree with your and Ryan's point. Those guys put a lot of
work and time
planning a DXpedition. Then as you properly said, they continue by exposing
themselves to personal safety and health risks. Then they keep in front
of the
rig for many hours, to give a new entity to a lot of people around the
world.
Then they have to be exposing themselves again on the trip back home. And
finally, the hard work to answer thousand of qsls.
And what we have to do after a few hours of confortable work to make the
qso ?
Just send the qsl and WAIT for the answer. Or send the log to LOTW and
WAIT for
the match and credit. And follow THEIR instructions. If at the end of
the qsl work
they have some extra money, it's nice. They will use it for future
dxpeditions.
I don't know anybody that made money with Dxpeditions. But I know a lot of
nice guys that always put his money on their expeditions and never see
anything
back. And we should always say thanks to them. They help to keep our
hobby alive.
Now we have some guys that did nothing to help the dxpeditions, saying
they must
do this, they must do that .... that's ridiculous ...
As we use to say here "IF YOU CAN'T HELP, DON'T DISTURB".
Fred - PY7ZZ
Em 21/12/2011 19:56, jcowe...@comcast.net escreveu:
Gentlemen, I hope I didn't light this flame a week or so with my
request for info re ST0R and LOTW. My apologies if I am guilty.
This worn out thread needs to be buried. Please read what Ryan said in
his email (below) as he is right on the mark. Most DXpeditions are not
going to instantly put their logs on LOTW and shouldn't be expected to
do so. They have substantial costs to try and recover, and we should
help them do it or DXpeditions are going to disappear.
I doubt very much that anyone is making money by doing a DXpedition,
and are frequently exposing themselves to personal safety and health
risks. Be kind and considerate to the guys who take these risks to put
a QSO in your log.
John Owens - N7TK
Celebrating over 50 Years in Ham Radio
No. 1 Honor Roll
"Are you sure they did it?
Their webpage says this:
Donors and Sponsors will receive LoTW CFMs after the DXped ends.
http://www.tx7m.com/sponsors.php
Maybe they changed their minds afterwards but the initial expectation
was that LoTW was a perk of donating.
It is apparent that some don't realize the massive costs of a major
DXpedition. It's not simply two guys taking a boat with a rig and a
wire antenna. Some of these operations cost tens or even hundreds of
thousands of dollars.
And with that cost, there must be a means of recouping some of it.
I have no problem with tossing a few bucks in the tip jar if I get a
new one.
Bureau is and likely will always be free. Many of them upload to LoTW
after 1-2 years after the expedition ends anyway.
But to expect everyone to spend tens or hundreds of thousands and then
not expect to recoup some of those costs is just silly.
73
Ryan, N2RJ"
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