I think Dennis has said it best. "Have patience. Good things come to he who waits..." I am remember the 5A/G3??? operation that happened when Libya was extremely rare and before the 5A1A DXpedition. If memory serves it was a few years afterwards that the operation was accredited. In this day and age of instant gratification perhaps some of us need to have some patience.
Bernie, W3UR Dennis McAlpine wrote: > Given the problems over the years, I believe it would be a dangerous > precedent to accept "verbal" permissions to operate. If we cannot rely on > people to even be in the country from which they claim to be operating, how > can we expect them to remember or actually obtain real verbal permission to > operate from the appropriate authorities? > > BTW, how is it decided who is the "appropriate authority"? Shouldn't we be > consistent? If YT1AD was denied permission by the "appropriate authority", > then how could that same "authority" grant permission to someone else? At > least, it would seem reasonable to seek a suitable answer to that question > from the prior operators who had permission from some "appropriate > authority." > > A verbal permission is worth about as much as the paper on which it isn't > written. Have patience. Good things come to he who waits... > 73, > Dennis K2SX > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Russell Kellam Jr" <w4ubc@vi > si.net>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] re: Verbal licence > > > I don't understand your reasoning. There have been plenty of countries, > > over the years, that have been without amateur radio due to the political > > situation at the time. Prime examples: ZA and BY. They were on the > > country list, but inactive for a LONG time. > > It just seems like a case of sour grapes, or lack of instant > gratification, > > as most of us weren't on the "buddy list" of the accredited operations. > > > > What I don't understand is why YT1AD was told not to transmit, and > > 4L4FN was apparently given a verbal OK. Also, if Ed is under UN > > auspices, why not be 4U/4L4FN, as was done in the middle east in the > > past? Also, in Ed's case, I believe all he should need to prove, since > > YT1AD was denied permission, is show he is operating from P5. > > 73, > > Barry W2UP > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Mar 2002 Russell Kellam Jr wrote: > > > > > I fully agree with the proposal that if P5 authorities refuse twice > > > to issue a written license, they should be removed from the list > > > until the problem is resolved thru the ITU. Don't forget, Marti Lane > > > left them a complete amateur radion station. 73 Russ W4UBC > > > > > > Jim wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a feeling this thread is going to DX-CHAT real quick. > > > > > > > > The problem is, that in the past, people have lied about what kind of > > > > authorization they had. The DXCC desk has a strict interpretation, but > > > > they are consistent and that is fair to all of us. > > > > > > > > Jim N4AL > > > > > > > > dl8aam wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Billy R. Gallier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >This P5 thing has gone too far. If the country will not issue a > written > > > > > >license verbal permission should be accepted or (...) > > > > > > > > > > Hi ! > > > > > good idea, why should be a 'real' verbal licence invalid. ... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc > > > > DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > > > DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > > > > > > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc > > > DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > > DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > > > > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > > > > -- > > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc > > DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc > DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news > DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ -- Bernie McClenny, W3UR Every thing you need to know about keeping up with the latest DX news at http://www.dailydx.com Editor of - The Daily DX - The Weekly DX - How's DX ------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems, etc DX-NEWS http://njdxa.org/dx-news DX-CHAT: http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/
