Hello Darrel,

please allow a simple calculation:

How many DX4WIN user exists? 8.000-10.000 !

>From Version 6   to version 7 =  $25.00

If only 4.000 do yearly the update = thats 100.000.- plus all new version they 
sell !
How many years DX4WIN exists ?
( when you call a man a business man ? )

> As far as I'm aware, they're not making any large profit 
> off DX4WIN....:-))
> Both of these guys have real jobs and real family commitments. 
> They set up the mail reflector as a self-help tool, because they knew they'd 
> never be able to provide 24x7 support, and in general (thanks in great part 
> to AD1C) it works.

Thanks to Jim for his great work - but is it the guy how gets the money? No !
He do most of support for us - alone(!), and the other two guy's ? They busy 
with counting .... ?


> I would agree that there has been no significant functionality changes over 
> the past few years, but other than a cosmetic update,

Why then every year they offer a upgrade for money? Why they not fix bugs like 
ADIF2 export, main Export function ( manager cant exported),
real LotW functions (import/export), label print functions and ....
They dont have a ear for customer needs. DX4WIN was state of the art !
They offer only cosmetic - next will comes at Dayton, believe me: Version 8 - 
(what strange version numbering for inimpressive bug fixing)

 ... its will be slowly over -  It's a great pity !
( a free translated german saying: .. other mommies has also nice daugthers... )

73 Chris



> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Darrell Earnshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Gesendet: 30.01.07 23:54:00
> An: <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [Dx4win] New order!


> Chris, et al,
> 
> Just a little clarification, there are only two guys officially supporting 
> this product. Both of these guys have real jobs and real family commitments. 
> They set up the mail reflector as a self-help tool, because they knew they'd 
> never be able to provide 24x7 support, and in general (thanks in great part 
> to AD1C) it works. As far as I'm aware, they're not making any large profit 
> off DX4WIN; if anything, given the high costs of appearing at Dayton every 
> year, they might even be running at a loss - so they're definately not 
> changing from hams to business men.
> 
> I would agree that there has been no significant functionality changes over 
> the past few years, but other than a cosmetic update, what other 
> functionality would you like to see? It's very easy to take pot-shots at 
> these guys, but you've got to come up with alternatvies and suggestions. 
> Bear in mind, that DX4WIN is a logging program - period. It's not meant to 
> be a Swiss-Army knife of ham software, so what would logging features you 
> like to see that are not currently being offered?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Darrell
> NR3Y/6.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Sauvageot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>; "Ernie Walls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] New order!
> 
> 
> I agree with Ernie - the programmers runs out of power, they take what they 
> can get with the yearly updated ( bug fixing done be users ) from us,
> add more or less useless functions, and dont have any inovations. And over 
> all; support will be more and more a foreign word.
> They moved more and more from Ham's to business mans.
> 
> As Ernie sad, its like CT or WriteLog. CT users move to Win-Test, Writelog 
> user move to N1MM ...
> Looks like , the time is over ! Thanks was a nice time.
> 
> I am a longtime user of DX4WIN; still i am using DX4WIN. But now i have an 
> open eye for a next step any buy(!) a new generation one.
> 
> 73 Chris
> DL5NAM
> 
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: "Ernie Walls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Gesendet: 30.01.07 09:04:29
> > An: <[email protected]>
> > Betreff: [Dx4win] New order!
> 
> 
> > Perhaps I am being unfair, but I get a strong feeling that DX4Win is
> > starting to get old and tired - so, if you will recall, did CT.
> >
> > Now, before you start shouting at me, I use DX4Win, and think it is a
> > great program - but it does seem to me, that almost every ham radio
> > program, sooner or later, struggles to keep up with the interminable
> > number of requests (demands) placed upon it, and ends up 'sluggish'.
> >
> > Again, I have no problem with this, as I very much doubt that anyone has
> > made a fortune from any of these programs - and that authors, much like
> > K1EA, I suspect, just get sick of the demands placed upon them, once the
> > program gravy train starts.
> >
> > I stress, no complaints from here - just an observation.
> >
> > Ernie
> > Ernie Walls VK3FM
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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