Are you saying that one cannot control DTR and RTS ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 20:46
Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port


> Ron,
>
> We haven't explorered the internals of USB in too much detail, but as we
> understand the USB standard, toggling leads like you can with a serial
port
> is not possible and the Window's drivers for USB ports do not allow it.
So,
> if our "limited" exploration is correct, using a USB port direct will not
be
> an option for communicating with things like keying CW through a
> transistor/diode circuit, toggling PTT, etc....  unless somebody invents
> drivers to allow lead access to a USB port.  But then that opens up
another
> can of worms... hihi.... since the design of operating systems is becoming
> more and more rigid about external control of communications ports in non
> standard ways.
>
> Time will tell.
>
> Regards
> Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
>
>
> > Here are some prices (from Byterunner)
> >
> > 2 port PCI serial card: $46.00
> > 4 port PCI serial card: $99.00
> > 8 port PCI serial card: $189.00
> >
> > The USB alternative:
> >
> > 1 USB to 1 Serial: $20.00
> > 1 USB to 2 Serial: $38.00
> > 1 USB to 4 Serial: $110.00
> >
> > So, although there is no USB to 8 serial device available that I am
aware
> > of, the prices via the USB route are about the same as PCI cards.
> >
> > While the Byterunner PCI cards do support DTR CW generation and Baudot
> code
> > generation (with DTR push to talk), I would need some evidence that the
> USB
> > alternative would support those very limited (to hams) applications.
> >
> > BUT...USB is the future path of PC's.  Very compact PC's are being sold
> with
> > no user accessible slots at all.
> >
> > Courtny..when you say DXBase does not support a 'direct USB interface' I
> am
> > guessing that you are talking about support for non standard things like
> > controlling individual lines (DTR for example).  Won't the operating
> system
> > allow these converters to look like conventional COM ports for typical
> > communications use?  And as such wouldn't these USB to RS232 devices
work
> > for radio frequency control, rotor control, packet tnc, etc.
> >
> > Ron N5IN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> >
> >
> > > Courtney,
> > > I must disagree with the statement that a USB to Serial HUB is a waste
> of
> > > computing power. I have need for more than 4 serial ports and to
> purchase
> > > serial port expander cards such as Rocketport is expensive and
requires
> > > computing power to operate. The USB to serial  HUB is a less expensive
> > > option. The serial interface in Windows does not seem to have a
standard
> > > that every manufacture or software developer  will follow. My hope is
> that
> > > DXBase will support USB in the future and get away from the resource
> > > problems that hamper standard serial ports.
> > >
> > > Bill  WA4OYH
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > Use a USB to Serial hub and get multiple serial ports from one USB
> port.
> > > > DXbase does not support a direct USB interface.  ( such a waste of
> > > computer
> > > > resources to do so ).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Courtney
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > > Subject: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to control a 756PROII via the USB ports?  Thank
you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Neill K4XG
> > > > >
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