On one of our site, we already stripped the CSS/Style crap out of lable.js
(we're using the DynAPI with a JSP architecture) so we can utilize some of
the added features of the newer browsers with out causing the older ones to
fail. Our client loves the new features, and has no problems with the less
colorful/usable app in older browsers. I think ensuring backward
compatibility might be the solution to keep us from dividing into camps
along the cross-browser/cross-platform line.
Mike Ellis
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 09:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Netscape 6 discussion
So what's wrong with ensuring backward compatibility, while adding the
newest effects for the latest browsers?
I don't think most customers *mind* if a little colored border, or some
transparency don't show in NS4, as long as the site looks nice and readable
in that browser.
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Netscape 6 discussion
> Then isn't that the big problem? That people still want THE site to be 4.x
> compatible? WHY!?
>
> And I think we're only making that problem bigger for developers by
> introducing an API that actually makes DHTML development almost a breeze
> (still the biggest supporter/fan of this thing out there :).
>
> I mean, we ALL know that 90% (more) is using IE5+ .. so why aren't we
> participating on it? The webdesign world is just one screwed up world
(maybe
> the complete software world is?) We're trying to hang on to old things
just
> because 10% (less!) are using it? Marketing people or sales people are
> probably laughing when they here numbers like that..
>
>
> "If the move was to end supporting 4.x browsers, I think most people will
> stop using it professionaly, and treat it just like a cool thing where you
> can develop some experimental stuff..."
>
> So DynAPI is a tool that makes it possible to do code that works on older
> browsers? Because that's exactly what I was saying..are we holding things
> back because of the support for 4.x ? And could it be more powerfull when
> supporting 5.x stuff (like IE5's behaviours, or image filters, or NS6's
> build-in eventlisteners)..
>
> (btw. : with this discussion I'm trying to figure out a few things about
> browser support and possibilities for the DynAPI)
>
> Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Software ontwikkelaar
> Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> http://www.oibv.com
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Nuno Ferreira
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 6 februari 2001 16:18
> > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Netscape 6 discussion
> >
> >
> >
> > >Leading to my real question: should DynAPI keep
> > supporting "old" 4.x
> > >browsers? is there any need for it?
> >
> > At least in my world there is.
> > If, for instance, the DynAPI stopped supporting NS 4.x,
> > and/or IE 4.x I
> > would
> > certain would stop using it.
> >
> > People forget that usually, a client, particulary, a BIG Client, when
> > specifiying
> > the Browser target for his/her web page, usually wants to
> > target IE4.x and
> > NS 4.x
> > Trust me, they don't care if the latest statistics show 90%
> > of the Market
> > using
> > IE, they care about the other 10% too, because they want all
> > the users to be
> > able
> > to access their site. Some months ago I did some HTML
> > optimization for the
> > team
> > that built the site of the biggest telecom company in
> > Portugal, and they
> > demanded
> > that we should maintain IE 3x and NS 3x compatibility!
> >
> > I do think that the main problem is not supporting NS and IE, it's
> > supporting
> > a) IE 4.x, IE 5.0, IE 5.5 on Win32
> > b) IE 4.x, IE 5.5 on Mac
> > c) NS 4.x
> > d) NS 6
> >
> > If you look closely there's more IE versions out there that
> > NS versions (at
> > least
> > from a pratical point of view). Most users are very lazy, and
> > if you look at
> > most
> > statistics, and if their version of Win has IE 4, or IE 5.0
> > they stick to it
> > until
> > they cannot view a page decently, and only then they upgrade,
> > because 15Mb
> > downloads
> > are still out of the question for the great majority.
> >
> > I don't know if NS 4 is the same on Linux, Win32 and Mac, so
> > this view maybe
> > a bit biased or incomplete.
> >
> > You can't ignore 4.x versions as long as there's millions
> > using them, just
> > as you
> > can't start developing for a 1024x768 while there's millions
> > using smaller
> > screen
> > sizes (actually 800x600 is still the most widely used screen size...)
> >
> > I work in a Web Design and Development so I deal with this
> > problem all the
> > time,
> > and I can safely say that professionaly, we're gonna have to
> > deal with 4.x
> > browsers
> > a long time still.
> >
> > If the move was to end supporting 4.x browsers, I think most
> > people will
> > stop using
> > it professionaly, and treat it just like a cool thing where
> > you can develop
> > some
> > experimental stuff...
> >
> >
> > NunoF
> >
> >
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