Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Browser Language Support

[Michael Pemberton]

I don't want top keep this thread going but I have to step in here. I have to ask a few questions:     When was th last time a new core feature was added to IE?     When was the last time a major bug was found in NS4? Apart from one bug found to allow java access to files it shouldn't, I can't remember any other NS bug that was major enough to require me downloading the 25 install again. IE on the other hand is being patched and fixed more often than Florida Recount. I'm not one who has turned down NS6 because of bugs or problems with the actual program.  The SOLE reason that I have not upgraded to NS6 is because it is TOO IE for my likings.  It hides the processes from users and makes it impossible for developers to see what is going on. Raymond Smith wrote: In a purely utopian society I would agree with "no matter how small the number of people that use that browser, it is used".  In reality there are currently 71 different browsers in use today by "some # of people".  There are 10 browsers that capture .25% marketshare or more.  10 being defined as "named browsers", exclusive of version within a named category (we'll not go that deep gets real ugly fast). Top Browsers (greater then .20% marketshare) 1) IE  (approximately 86% marketshare)2) NS4 (approximately 9% marketshare) Of the top 10 browsers the following currently "exceed" NS6 in total market penetration and use: 3) Opera                                  3.42%4) AvantGo 3.2                         1.50%5) 4.72 (X11)                            1.46%6) Powermarks - 3.5                 1.29%7) Lynx                                    0.74%8) IBrowse                                0.74%9) Science Traveler IX                0.37%10) NS6                                   0.26%11) Konqueror 2.1                     0.24% Of all these the only ones that gets refernced at all in this group is Opera and Konqueror (by one individual).  The only reason NS6 gets any attention it all is due to residual effects of the browser wars.  During them we supported both, hence the propensity to still support it.  Went do you let the thing go, it drowned 2 years ago? (emote prepares to duck) I guess we need to build support for all these browsers then, at least ones greater then .26% penetration   ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Browser Language Support  >>They all tried NS6 and went back to NS4. Not true, Not true.  I tried NS 6.0 and because the setup was buggy I was forced to return to using ns 4 and ms 5.  When it comes down to it, no browser has the ability to provide complete standards support.  If you take a look at the date when the w3c approves a standard and the date at which a browser supports it you would find that no browser maker, ms, ns, or opera appears to be really concerned about providing website developers or web surfers with a consistent and dependable browser. I have recently downloaded NS6.01 and have begun to ensure that sites that build will support it.  No matter how small the number of people are that use the browser, it is used.  And that is what is important. -- Michael Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 12107010