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In reality IE is one thing to MS, a weapon of mass
distruction. The real war is over the next-generation web, which is object
based and client free. It MS vs the 700+ company OMG consortium backing
Corba/Java and a heterogeneous web. IE is always going to be
problematic, MS uses it that way. Removing Java support in IE6 is
gonna rock a lot of legacy sites out there, MS knows this.
Microsoft spent 1+ billion dollars developing the
IE6, Whistler OS, .NET package. They certainly didn't spend it
to satisfy "customer needs and wants" but rather to postion their points of
dominance so they can be leveraged against Linux, Java and the Open Source
revolution.
It's gonna get uglier before it gets
better.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 7:34
PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Browser
Language Support
I don't want top keep this thread going but I have to step in
here.
I have to ask a few questions:
When was th last time
a new core feature was added to IE?
When was the last
time a major bug was found in NS4?
Apart from one bug found to allow java access to files it shouldn't, I
can't remember any other NS bug that was major enough to require me
downloading the 25 install again.
IE on the other hand is being patched and fixed more often than Florida
Recount.
I'm not one who has turned down NS6 because of bugs or problems with the
actual program. The SOLE reason that I have not upgraded to NS6 is
because it is TOO IE for my likings. It hides the processes from users
and makes it impossible for developers to see what is going on.
Raymond Smith wrote:
In a purely utopian society I would agree
with "no matter how small the number of people that use that browser, it is
used". In reality there are currently 71 different browsers in use
today by "some # of people". There are 10 browsers that capture .25%
marketshare or more. 10 being defined as "named browsers", exclusive
of version within a named category (we'll not go that deep gets real ugly
fast). Top Browsers
(greater then .20% marketshare) 1) IE (approximately 86% marketshare)2) NS4 (approximately 9%
marketshare) Of the top 10
browsers the following currently "exceed" NS6 in total market penetration
and use: 3)
Opera
3.42%4) AvantGo
3.2
1.50%5) 4.72
(X11)
1.46%6) Powermarks -
3.5
1.29%7)
Lynx
0.74%8)
IBrowse
0.74%9) Science Traveler
IX
0.37%10)
NS6
0.26%11) Konqueror
2.1
0.24% Of all these the
only ones that gets refernced at all in this group is Opera and Konqueror
(by one individual). The only reason NS6 gets any attention it all is
due to residual effects of the browser wars. During them we supported
both, hence the propensity to still support it. Went do you let the
thing go, it drowned 2 years ago? (emote prepares to duck) I guess we need to build support for all
these browsers then, at least ones greater then .26%
penetration
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:58
PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Browser
Language Support >>They all tried NS6 and went back to NS4.
Not true, Not true. I
tried NS 6.0 and because the setup was buggy I was
forced to return to using ns 4 and ms
5. When it comes down to it, no
browser has the ability to provide
complete standards support. If you take a
look at the date when the w3c approves a
standard and the date at which a
browser supports it you would find that
no browser maker, ms, ns, or opera
appears to be really concerned about
providing website developers or web
surfers with a consistent and dependable
browser.
I have recently downloaded
NS6.01 and have begun to ensure that sites that
build will support it. No matter
how small the number of people are that use
the browser, it is used. And that
is what is important.
--
Michael Pemberton
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