point taken,

I think the best way to look at this is if we can find someone able to do
the mac coding (bug fixing mainly)  this way we can see how often a test for
platform==mac is used, if used often it's fairly simple to replace them with
is.macie  checks.  I'm not sure if DOM is even used in the current code (ns6
checks should be sufficient)  I know why it was added once, but is that
stuff still used?

And thus I'm now doing an official cry out to that one or two persons out
there with a Mac and the knowledge to bug fix for that browser.. please show
us that the Mac is not for DTP persons only :-)


Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Cameron Hart
> Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2001 11:44
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
>
>
> I know, but perhaps it would be good to have an is.macie, is.macie5,
> is.winie, etc. in addition to what is there already. It is
> faster to make
> this boolean comparision, and in reality mac and pc versions of ie are
> nearly as different as ie and netscape.
>
> I think the is.dom test isn't quite right either. is.dom
> what? The test used
> is for optional dom2 functionality. perhaps there should be
> tests for dom1,
> dom2 and dom3. ns6 is the only browser that passes the
> current is.dom test,
> but win ie5.5 and mac ie5 are nearly completely dom1
> compliant (not sure
> about dom2).
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pascal
> > Sent: 31 January 2001 10:18
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> >
> >
> > that's why there is the is.platform  value :)
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > Software ontwikkelaar
> > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > http://www.oibv.com
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
> Cameron Hart
> > > Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2001 11:07
> > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > in browser.js it is for both mac and pc. probably not a good
> > > idea really as
> > > they are totally different browsers!
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Richard
> > > > Bennett
> > > > Sent: 31 January 2001 00:12
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hi,
> > > > > 1) NS4 window doesn't scroll content no matter what.
> > > > Somebody posted a fix for this a while back, maybe search the
> > > > archives. (+-
> > > > 2 months ago)
> > > >
> > > > >? I fiddled around with removeChild(), removeFromParent(),
> > > > > and document.recreateAll(),
> > > > recreateAll is apparently broken in this release, expect a
> > > fix in SP1.
> > > > But normally you would only want to do this in NS4 (to counter
> > > > the bug) but
> > > > in IE you can also move the layers to their position again
> > > (slideTo or
> > > > moveTo).
> > > > That's better, because DynAPI.document.deleteAllChildren()
> > > > doesn't actually
> > > > free up any ram, so each time you resize the browser
> you increase
> > > > the ram in
> > > > use.
> > > >
> > > > > {DynAPI.document.load('steve_jobs_is_not_the_messiah.htm')} ;
> > > > LOL, and even if he was, MS would release such a buggy browser
> > > > for Mac as to
> > > > make Mac unusable on the internet.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I have a related question, does if(is.ie)
> specify IE on
> > > > PC (as it
> > > > seems to) or IE on all platforms?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Richard Bennett
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > www.richardinfo.com
> > > > (Everything running on, and ported to the 19/12/2000
> > > snapshot of DynAPI2)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Greg Bumpus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:43 PM
> > > > Subject: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm newbie.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  . . . me too. I am still sifting through the list archives,
> > > > apologies if
> > > > I
> > > > > ask something already documented.
> > > > >
> > > > > First, can I say, this stuff is great. Amazing. Thoroughly
> > > > engaging way to
> > > > > while away the hours.  Now to bombard the group with
> questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) NS4 window doesn't scroll content no matter what. I
> > > set massive layer
> > > > > heights, I load external files that are miles long, IE scrolls
> > > > nicely, and
> > > > > NS4 always clips everything at the botom of the browser
> > > window with no
> > > > > scrolling. Is there a way around this?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) onResize methods: I am using "liquid" layers (remember
> > > dynapi1?) by
> > > > > setting width and height to DynAPI.document.w and .h
> > > respectively. Works
> > > > > great. But I ned a good method to redraw everything on resize,
> > > > of course.
> > > > > Here's what I use:
> > > > >
> > > > > DynAPI.onResize = function() {
> > > > >     DynAPI.document.deleteAllChildren() ;
> > > > >     DynAPI.onLoad() ;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > This is fine on Windows browsers I've tested, but
> (gulp) I need
> > > > to support
> > > > > Macintosh and this function really hosed IE5 on the Mac G3. I
> > > > repeated the
> > > > > experiment a few times, each time getting "Error type 2"
> > > (thanks for the
> > > > > info, mac engineers), followed shortly by a full system
> > > crash. Yikes. So
> > > > is
> > > > > there a better way? I fiddled around with removeChild(),
> > > > removeFromParent(),
> > > > > and document.recreateAll(), but probably not in the right
> > > > combination. Any
> > > > > tips here appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) The last problem led me to investigate the browser
> > > (is.) methods. I
> > > > don't
> > > > > get the right syntax to check for the mac;  is.platform
> > > seems to be the
> > > > way,
> > > > > but neither is.mac nor is.platform = "mac" seems to do it:
> > > > >  if ((is.platform="mac") && (is.ie))
> > > > > {DynAPI.document.load('steve_jobs_is_not_the_messiah.htm')} ;
> > > > >
> > > > > weirdly this returns true on my PC. Again apologies
> for any basic
> > > > javascript
> > > > > blindness on my part.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK. I develop and browse on a PC but use a Mac at
> work, so I'll
> > > > volunteer
> > > > to
> > > > > help test that platform as needed. I seem to remember
> > > that issue came up
> > > > > somewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for suggestions on any front,
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > >
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