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Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Doug Melvin
> Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2001 19:30
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
>
>
> DTP?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 3:04 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
>
>
> > point taken,
> >
> > I think the best way to look at this is if we can find
> someone able to do
> > the mac coding (bug fixing mainly) this way we can see how
> often a test
> for
> > platform==mac is used, if used often it's fairly simple to
> replace them
> with
> > is.macie checks. I'm not sure if DOM is even used in the
> current code
> (ns6
> > checks should be sufficient) I know why it was added once,
> but is that
> > stuff still used?
> >
> > And thus I'm now doing an official cry out to that one or
> two persons out
> > there with a Mac and the knowledge to bug fix for that
> browser.. please
> show
> > us that the Mac is not for DTP persons only :-)
> >
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > Software ontwikkelaar
> > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > http://www.oibv.com
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
> Cameron Hart
> > > Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2001 11:44
> > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > I know, but perhaps it would be good to have an is.macie,
> is.macie5,
> > > is.winie, etc. in addition to what is there already. It is
> > > faster to make
> > > this boolean comparision, and in reality mac and pc
> versions of ie are
> > > nearly as different as ie and netscape.
> > >
> > > I think the is.dom test isn't quite right either. is.dom
> > > what? The test used
> > > is for optional dom2 functionality. perhaps there should be
> > > tests for dom1,
> > > dom2 and dom3. ns6 is the only browser that passes the
> > > current is.dom test,
> > > but win ie5.5 and mac ie5 are nearly completely dom1
> > > compliant (not sure
> > > about dom2).
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Pascal
> > > > Sent: 31 January 2001 10:18
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > that's why there is the is.platform value :)
> > > >
> > > > Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens
> > > Cameron Hart
> > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2001 11:07
> > > > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > in browser.js it is for both mac and pc. probably not a good
> > > > > idea really as
> > > > > they are totally different browsers!
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > Behalf Of Richard
> > > > > > Bennett
> > > > > > Sent: 31 January 2001 00:12
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > > 1) NS4 window doesn't scroll content no matter what.
> > > > > > Somebody posted a fix for this a while back, maybe
> search the
> > > > > > archives. (+-
> > > > > > 2 months ago)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >? I fiddled around with removeChild(), removeFromParent(),
> > > > > > > and document.recreateAll(),
> > > > > > recreateAll is apparently broken in this release, expect a
> > > > > fix in SP1.
> > > > > > But normally you would only want to do this in NS4
> (to counter
> > > > > > the bug) but
> > > > > > in IE you can also move the layers to their position again
> > > > > (slideTo or
> > > > > > moveTo).
> > > > > > That's better, because DynAPI.document.deleteAllChildren()
> > > > > > doesn't actually
> > > > > > free up any ram, so each time you resize the browser
> > > you increase
> > > > > > the ram in
> > > > > > use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> {DynAPI.document.load('steve_jobs_is_not_the_messiah.htm')} ;
> > > > > > LOL, and even if he was, MS would release such a
> buggy browser
> > > > > > for Mac as to
> > > > > > make Mac unusable on the internet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, I have a related question, does if(is.ie)
> > > specify IE on
> > > > > > PC (as it
> > > > > > seems to) or IE on all platforms?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Richard Bennett
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > www.richardinfo.com
> > > > > > (Everything running on, and ported to the 19/12/2000
> > > > > snapshot of DynAPI2)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Greg Bumpus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:43 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [Dynapi-Help] RE: + more questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm newbie.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > . . . me too. I am still sifting through the
> list archives,
> > > > > > apologies if
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > ask something already documented.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > First, can I say, this stuff is great. Amazing. Thoroughly
> > > > > > engaging way to
> > > > > > > while away the hours. Now to bombard the group with
> > > questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) NS4 window doesn't scroll content no matter what. I
> > > > > set massive layer
> > > > > > > heights, I load external files that are miles
> long, IE scrolls
> > > > > > nicely, and
> > > > > > > NS4 always clips everything at the botom of the browser
> > > > > window with no
> > > > > > > scrolling. Is there a way around this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) onResize methods: I am using "liquid" layers (remember
> > > > > dynapi1?) by
> > > > > > > setting width and height to DynAPI.document.w and .h
> > > > > respectively. Works
> > > > > > > great. But I ned a good method to redraw
> everything on resize,
> > > > > > of course.
> > > > > > > Here's what I use:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DynAPI.onResize = function() {
> > > > > > > DynAPI.document.deleteAllChildren() ;
> > > > > > > DynAPI.onLoad() ;
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is fine on Windows browsers I've tested, but
> > > (gulp) I need
> > > > > > to support
> > > > > > > Macintosh and this function really hosed IE5 on
> the Mac G3. I
> > > > > > repeated the
> > > > > > > experiment a few times, each time getting "Error type 2"
> > > > > (thanks for the
> > > > > > > info, mac engineers), followed shortly by a full system
> > > > > crash. Yikes. So
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > there a better way? I fiddled around with removeChild(),
> > > > > > removeFromParent(),
> > > > > > > and document.recreateAll(), but probably not in the right
> > > > > > combination. Any
> > > > > > > tips here appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3) The last problem led me to investigate the browser
> > > > > (is.) methods. I
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > get the right syntax to check for the mac; is.platform
> > > > > seems to be the
> > > > > > way,
> > > > > > > but neither is.mac nor is.platform = "mac" seems to do it:
> > > > > > > if ((is.platform="mac") && (is.ie))
> > > > > > >
> {DynAPI.document.load('steve_jobs_is_not_the_messiah.htm')} ;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > weirdly this returns true on my PC. Again apologies
> > > for any basic
> > > > > > javascript
> > > > > > > blindness on my part.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK. I develop and browse on a PC but use a Mac at
> > > work, so I'll
> > > > > > volunteer
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > help test that platform as needed. I seem to remember
> > > > > that issue came up
> > > > > > > somewhere.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for suggestions on any front,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > >
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