Have you ever heard the term "cut and shut". It is a term used in reference to repairs that have been done by putting two halfs of a car together. Should each of these cars be given their own outlet? NO. If you don't like what I am doing, feel free to pitch in and make the DynAPI so bug free that it makes WebOS envious (sorry Dan ;D ).
If you remember the birth of the AfroAPI, it came from requirements that were IMPOSSIBLE in the DynAPI. These include JS execution in LoadPanel and syncronised downloading of code AFTER loading, just to name a few.
I fully recognise that these features are not required for all sites. As such, I would not expect the DynAPI to go through a complete overhaul to accomodate my specific needs.
With regards to your claims of a clone ( defined as: "one that appears to be a copy of an original form" ), can you please give me more detail. If I can list more than two features that exist in my version that are not possible in the official release (and visa-versa), doesn't that make it more of an evolution ( defined as "a process of change in a certain direction")? Can you explain why anyone would release code under the GPL licence and then expect people to leave it alone?
As for your claim on my involvement, what is your definition of "beginning"? While taking into account the period of a few weeks when I lost my mail archives, I count a total of 401 posts to either the Dev or Help lists that do not contain the word "AfroAPI" (+110 that do in some form or another). These post only date back as far as Jan 20 2001, so there are probably many more prior to the move over to a mail list based system.
I have no problem with people chosing to ignore my posts, I take great insult from people who kick up a fuss simple because I run my own development release that differs slightly. As soon as you start posting as many patches and bug fixes as I have, then I am more than willing to sit back and bask in your glory. In the meantime, spend the next few weeks drafting your next complaint and let's see if we can get your message count up to 10 by the end of the year.
David Steele wrote:
Well well i seem again to of stirred a few emotions funny how the truth
hurts egh.firstly i dont speak for the developers i speak for myself and i say what i
see, perhaps some people choose to lurk instead of jumping in and iam
suprised no-one else has mentioned this before, i dont go to a Ford dealer
and expect them to sell me a Toyota do i ?what i see is a "dynAPI help" list , now in my eyes that means help on the
dynAPI, so how does this Afro thing help people who are trying to get help
with the dynAPI ?now iam sure its very good etc , but what is the point in telling people who
are *allready* using the dynAPI to download yet another api except this one
isnt the DynAPI and has nothing to do with it ,as i have stated before these
clones justs adds to the confusion, some people are confused enough as it
seems without asking them to download a completely different version and
open up yet more bugs, do i post bug reports about his api in sourceforge ,
where do i get help for it etc etc.Why cant we work together and get this dynAPI project fixed and bug free
instead of pissing about with clones, surely many hands make light work
instead of too many cooks spoil the broth.surely Michael would be better off advertising his clone elsewhere and
starting his own sourceforge project instead of trying to push it to
existing dynAPI users, why try and decrease the dynAPI userbase ? , seems
like he is merely using this list to meet his own objectives.now flame on or not i dont give a fuck, but i give a fuck about loyalty to a
project especially one such as this , i have used dynAPI since it was
invented by Dan, but i dont want to this project collapse because of lots of
kids, all trying to steal the glory and hard work from the years of work
that has been done ,or people will just go and use someone elses api (now we
have the dom) so they can have a single point of contact without the
bullshit glorytakers.so my main gripe is not his API but the fact that he is using/hijacking this
list and the dynAPI project to push not the dynAPI which would be the right
thing to do , but his own clone, like wtf is wrong with starting up your own
list ? surely that would be a better idea than trying to confuse newbies and
beginners by posting about your api on a list directed to a completely
different api ?the fact that i dont post a lot don't mean shit
i have read this list for a long time ( the beginning) and i only speak when
i see something i dont agree with that is free speech no ?, and the only
post of Michaels's i have ever read are allways about promoting / bugfixing
his API so i dont know what his role is but it doesnt seem that active on
the DynAPI ,i try to look at it from a completely new users perspective
(which we seem to have a lot of (looking at the ide poll)), iam trying to
get into your thick skulls that we need to make the new users learning
experience a little easier instead of adding to their frustration.flame on
Michael Pemberton
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