>> This whole discussion about security is filled with basic errors.
>>
>> Everyone is confused, except Viking.
>>
>> Just go to a smart card model, if you want high security. It's
>> already working on metalsavings.com, you can use it every day.
>>
>
>I am no expert and don't claim to be. But on the basis that not everyone
>wants to go out and buy a smart card reader,
You don't need a smart card reader. I shoudlnt have used the phrase
"smart card", my mistake, as it makes you think of those idiotic
things they have in Belgium to pay for candy bars, parking meters,
etc.
What I meant was a CRYPTO CARD.
It is just like a little tiny pocket calculator. The web sites gives
you a number, you enter it on the card, and you get a number back.
It is unbreakable security, like a physical key. (Again, though, if
you lose it physically, you're, obviously, fucked.)
Go to metalsavings.com to get one or find out about it.
> maybe you could shed some light
>on how and why we are confused?
>
>I quite agree that a secret account number, a log-in name different from the
>account number, and a second password are the same thing. But it's not worth
>arguing over what you call it. The question is would it increase security?
>
>It is a granted here that we are talking about protection from sophisticated
>trojans, keyboard sniffers etc.
Unfortunately that is not a correct characterization, Surfer.
Keyboard sniffers are trivial and silly and -- again, unfortunately
-- if you fall prey to one it is because you are a bit of a lamer PC
user.
"Trojan" is not the way to describe it. "Walk in through the gates"
is more appropriate.
Few people are LESS competent than me with personal computers (I
can't even set my one up ... my kid's godfather has to do it every
time), so, I just use a Mac.
So, BUY A MAC, or become reasonably competent with PCs.
Unfortunately, again, adding endless id numbers etc will not,
logically, in any way, slow down attacks by "trojan!" programs.
My only suggestion would be, perhaps there is some sort of "anti
trojan!" software available, and egold could insist/check that you
use it -- if you are an unfortunate PC user -- before using the egold
system. Obviously, that would be defeated by the next round of
"trojan" software, but, it's a thought.
> I think most of us on this list know that we
>should have good passphrases and should not enter them on other sites.
>That's not what I'm worried about. If someone can convince me that that's my
>only concern, I will be very happy, but Frederick's story appears to confirm
>my fears.
>
>
>offshoresurfer
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