Hello Helen,

> There are very good reasons for avoiding the cascading effects of  such
> taxes.  Like the horrible distortion and the massive vertical integration
> that would follow.

Sorry, but could you elaborate? I'm pretty bad with the buzzwords du jour
and under distortion I would understand that everybody pays based on their
consumption rather  than their income or wealth, which I wouldn't find
horrible. Well, and for me vertical integration has to do with
conglomeratization in which companies produce everything from raw material
to finished product. The time where this was beneficial has passed and the
most money is being made by smart outsourcing strategies. So, while I can
see that someone would look into saving some of the tax by making
everything inhouse, the increased cost of the workforce (which is taxed)
higher overheads (which are taxed) and lower efficencies due to larger
internal bureacratic procedures would be likely to erase the mere thought
before it was going into a business plan.
Of course, I might have completely misunderstood you, which is why I'm
asking.

> Income tax, as it operates now, can be greatly simplified by:
> 1. territorialisation --tax only income earned from the territory of the
> taxing authority
> 2. source orientation -- tax income at the first suitable opportunity and
> exempt it from any taxation and reporting after this
> 3. low flat rates
> 4. depersonalisation -- tax income assessable from property and business,
> without discimination among recipients.

I do agree with all points, but believe that your proposal would lead to
higher overall taxes, as more and more high income eraners will simply
move overseas and take their wealth (and brains) with them, to take
advantage of the territorialization. But again, i might be wrong.

> I'm afraid your macro-economics are as bad as your fiscal policy economics.

That must be why I'm getting all those job offers from the US. They need
someone to blame ;o)

> It just does not work to stimulate the economy by fiscal policy, apart from
> structural reform of fiscal policy to reduce taxation and eliminate
> inefficient taxes and government programs (i.e. pretty much all of them).

I did not argue for or against stimulation as such, but considered it a
give. Everybody does it - well, every decent size economy - and they
appear to believe in it, even if might not work.
My question was actually if such a system could replace interest rate
manipulation. I sort of implied that this was continuing the genral
discussion about inflation, paper, fiat, gold, etc. Hence my proposal was
that maybe a flexible rate of a flat GST could do what everyonone else is
trying to do with rising and lowering interest rates - possibly with the
same result.

George,

What happens if I plant trees on my land? You know, I buy the land, plant
trees to start a saw mill in a decade or two. hence I will derive an
income in future, but not till then. If the government confiscates my land
because of that, who will invest into Agrobusiness - in other words, what
will we eat and where do we get natural raw materials (timber, pulp, etc.)
from after all trees are cut?

Just wondering.

Cheers,
Robert.

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