I don't know about that. The socialists are prone to relapse. Now that
*most* of the national debt has been repaid (under a 'conservative'
government), I would not trust a future Labor government to reduce
taxation AND spending. The previous Labor Party government had to
disavow the earlier disastrous Labor government economic policies, but
now that the (largest part of the) economic pain is becoming a mere
memory, Labor is prepared to commit to too many spending proposals,
despite continuing to claim to be committed to "balanced budgets". For
instance, the Labor Party from time to time criticizes the Liberal Party
government (or conservative, supposed to be classical Liberal, but I
doubt that most members of parliament even remember what that means) for
having too large a surplus. In response, Labor vows to spend (even) more
on health, education and welfare! In fact, before the "War on Terror"
(and more significantly, a collapse in the price of Telstra shares) the
treasurer had plans to complete the privatisation of Telstra and then to
pay off the entire balance of the government debt. Certain interests
went into a panic, because that meant that the government would have no
way to "control" the economy through the government bond market.

>From what we hear from USA, I am certain that people in Australia on
average incomes pay considerably less taxation than people on equivalent
purchasing power in USA, and many people (especially families) on low
incomes, due to reverse taxation and welfare policies often in reality
pay nothing or are nett recipients of government funds, but there are
people in both countries earning a lot more than that also. I'm sure no
one will be surprised that the top tax rates here remain considerably
higher than those in USA. (Although the maximum is generally about 50%
income tax (Federal only), and 10 percent GST. Unfortunately, there
remains a high amount of taxation on petrol. There are no death or
estate taxes, but there is a 15 percent tax on superannuation
contributions (the employer-contributed part of which is income tax
exempt). There has also never been any tax liability on proceeds of
gambling and competitions, because they know the house (which pays
taxes) wins on average, including lotteries. So lotto winners get the
whole lot, tax free, no matter how many millions it may be. However,
this in no way negates the established principal that a fool and his
money is soon parted.

Regards,
Ian Green


> From: FileMatrix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2003 3:34 AM
> To: e-gold Discussion
> Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Income tax

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> > In New Zealand and Australia the key leaders in both the 
> 'conservative'
> and Labor parties learnt
> from the economic devastation
> 
> Talk about socialists knowing better than capitalists :)
> 
> Good news! At this time, do they have higher taxes than USA 
> (say 40% or
> more)? Last time I checked they were rather moderate.


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