I'm afraid that might need the attention of some of our HW engineers and I'd 
have to play telephone, passing questions back and forth. That just gets 
frustrating.

The official support model is to use IPS & HSD.

Plus, if it's a custom design we have NDAs in place and I don't want to get 
into all that.

Todd Fujinaka
Software Application Engineer
Data Center Group
Intel Corporation
todd.fujin...@intel.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John H <5snkaz3...@snkmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:20 PM
To: Fujinaka, Todd <todd.fujin...@intel.com>; 
E1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Fujinaka, Todd <todd.fujin...@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [E1000-devel] ixgbe for 10 GbE SFP+ without CS4227 phy

Thanks, Todd.  I already am in discussions with the factory rep - which is half 
Portwell (COM Express board) and half us (carrier board with SFP+).  I can 
certainly provide our side of the design (COM Express connector to SFP+).

But the main question I had for this list I think (I hope) can be answered 
without any of that...

Can the ixgbe driver work without a PHY (e.g., CS4227) between the X552 and 
SFP+?

Knowing the answer to that would help the ongoing troubleshooting.

It seems like the CS4227 is just a line buffer with some features, and a design 
with short traces could work without it.  But I don't know if there is 
something it does electrically that is required or if the ixgbe driver is 
currently written such that it won't work without the PHY.

Fujinaka, Todd wrote at 16:51 +0000 on Jun 18, 2020:
 > Sorry, not enough coffee. Beyond what we are going to be able to answer via 
 > email, mainly because of all the design details, etc.
 >
 > Todd Fujinaka
 > Software Application Engineer
 > Data Center Group
 > Intel Corporation
 > todd.fujin...@intel.com
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Fujinaka, Todd <todd.fujin...@intel.com>  > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 
 > 2020 9:38 AM  > To: John H <5snkaz3...@snkmail.com>; 
 > E1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net  > Subject: Re: [E1000-devel] ixgbe for 10 
 > GbE SFP+ without CS4227 phy  >  > Can you file a bug directly through your 
 > factory rep? I think this is beyond what we're going to answer via email.
 >
 > Todd Fujinaka
 > Software Application Engineer
 > Data Center Group
 > Intel Corporation
 > todd.fujin...@intel.com
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: John H <5snkaz3...@snkmail.com>  > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:39 
 > PM  > To: E1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net  > Subject: [E1000-devel] ixgbe 
 > for 10 GbE SFP+ without CS4227 phy  >  > Can the ixgbe driver be used 
 > without a CS4227 PHY between the NIC (X552 in this case) and the SFP+?  Do 
 > you have to configure anything (driver settings, EEPROM firmware) to support 
 > that?
 >
 > I do see a CS4227 error message from the driver, but it's not clear if that 
 > is fatal:
 >
 > Jun 17 21:36:26 localhost kernel: ixgbe 0000:04:00.0: eth10: CS4227 reset 
 > failed: -18 Jun 17 21:36:26 localhost kernel: ixgbe 0000:04:00.0: registered 
 > PHC device on eth10 Jun 17 21:36:26 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): 
 > eth10: link is not ready Jun 17 21:36:26 localhost kernel: ixgbe 
 > 0000:04:00.0: eth10: detected SFP+: 5  >  > However, I am not seeing link 
 > (NO-CARRIER).
 >
 > Here is 'ethtool -m', so it's talking to the SFP+ okay.
 >
 > $ sudo ethtool -m eth10
 >         Identifier          : 0x03 (SFP)
 >         Extended identifier : 0x04 (GBIC/SFP defined by 2-wire interface ID)
 >         Connector           : 0x07 (LC)
 >         Transceiver codes   : 0x10 0x00 0x000x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
 >                             :  => 10G Ethernet: 10G Base-SR
 >         Encoding            : 0x06 (64B/66B)
 >         BR, Nominal         : 10300MBd
 >         Rate identifier     : 0x00 (unspecified)
 >         Length (SMF,km)     : 0km
 >         Length (SMF)        : 0m
 >         Length (50um)       : 80m
 >         Length (62.5um)     : 20m
 >         Length (Copper)     : 0m
 >         Length (OM3)        : 300m
 >         Laser wavelength    : 850nm
 >         Vendor name         : CISCO-INTEGRA   
 >         Vendor OUI          : c8:de:51
 >         Vendor PN           : SFP-10G-SR-S-IO 
 >         Vendor rev          : 01  



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