90% ? To me this already very good! consider usable! :-) I will use SWT for JavaFX for front end with animation and more eye catching. while SWT for Windows/MacOSX will reserve for backend users.
Great to hear that IF 90% really can be reach! ：-D does this mean Nebula project MOST of the controls can be run on JavaFX, right ? Great! Thanks On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Tom Schindl <[email protected]>wrote: > Well I already made a prove of concept and so did Doug Schaefer. > > See > > https://github.com/tomsontom/e-fx-clipse/tree/master/at.bestsolution.efxclipse.runtime.swt > and http://tomsondev.bestsolution.at/2012/06/05/almost-totally-crazy/. > > Other problems involve e.g. OLE because JavaFX is a lightweight > container embedding heavy weigt stuff is not working. > > What I think is hard to implement in FX is the direct drawing stuff one > would do through a PaintListener and of course there are missing > controls in the FX-Space (e.g. no TreeTable control). > > So while I guess in 6 months one can get 90% of SWT's API run on FX the > last 10% are not doable at all. > > Tom > > Am 08.08.12 15:10, schrieb Mike Wilson: > >>The other solution is to write an SWT port which use JavaFX as the > >> rendering technology which is also a big task. > >> > > I asked Steve Northover (who is working JavaFX now) about this at one > > point. He seemed to think it was doable. > > > > I'd guess one person for six months would get you an initial port, and > > then another year or so of tuning/tweaking to make it real. > > > > McQ. > > > > Inactive hide details for Tom Schindl ---08/06/2012 09:03:24 AM---That's > > exactly what e(fx)clipse does. It uses JavaFX all overTom Schindl > > ---08/06/2012 09:03:24 AM---That's exactly what e(fx)clipse does. It > > uses JavaFX all over while this is a good approach for RCP- > > > > From: Tom Schindl <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected], > > Date: 08/06/2012 09:03 AM > > Subject: Re: [e4-dev] (My) Working areas for 4.3 > > Sent by: [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > That's exactly what e(fx)clipse does. It uses JavaFX all over while this > > is a good approach for RCP-Applications it is not practical for the > > Eclipse IDE because you'd have to rewrite all and everything which is a > > very very huge task. > > > > The other solution is to write an SWT port which use JavaFX as the > > rendering technology which is also a big task. > > > > Tom > > > > Am 06.08.12 04:33, schrieb Ivan Ooi: > >> Nice! May I share some ideas ? > >> > >> Since SWT do not have any plans on multi touch, gesture, animation and > >> all that. Why not utilize JavaFX ? > >> Since JavaFX support SWT quite well ( I guess ) > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> Ivan > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Tom Schindl > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Now that we got 4.2 out I'd like to share what I plan to work on in the > >> 4.3 timeframe. > >> > >> Prio 1: > >> ------- > >> * Native Editor Support in EAP > >> * JavaFX2 rendering engine (not part of e4 project but my own > >> e(fx)clipse project) > >> > >> > >> Prior 2: > >> -------- > >> * Dynamic language switching for EAP > >> => no static translation resolving via NLS (also important for > >> multi-user envs like RAP) > >> * Allowing to nest an MSashContainer in an MPartStack (378298) > >> => Not sure though if an MSashContainer is a good idea because then > >> one can there once more nest a stack, do we want that? > >> => this will most likely fix 8009 > >> * XPath for contributing and querying > >> > >> > >> Things I'd consider important too but I don't plan to work on: > >> * Improving the e4 bridge > >> * enable e4 programming model for IDE dev (maybe needs e4 bridge) > >> * refactor code to natively run on e4 > >> * common navigator? > >> * preferences? > >> * ui.dialogs? > >> * e4xmi-Tooling > >> > >> Do we have a call today? > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> -- > >> B e s t S o l u t i o n . a t EDV Systemhaus GmbH > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> tom schindl geschäftsführer/CEO > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> eduard-bodem-gasse 5-7/1 A-6020 innsbruck fax ++43 512 > >> 935833 <tel:%2B%2B43%20512%20935833> > >> http://www.BestSolution.atphone ++43 512 > >> 935834 <tel:%2B%2B43%20512%20935834> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> e4-dev mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> e4-dev mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > >> > > > > > > -- > > B e s t S o l u t i o n . a t EDV Systemhaus GmbH > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > tom schindl geschäftsführer/CEO > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > eduard-bodem-gasse 5-7/1 A-6020 innsbruck fax ++43 512 935833 > > http://www.BestSolution.atphone ++43 512 935834 > > _______________________________________________ > > e4-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > e4-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > -- > B e s t S o l u t i o n . a t EDV Systemhaus GmbH > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tom schindl geschäftsführer/CEO > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eduard-bodem-gasse 5-7/1 A-6020 innsbruck fax ++43 512 935833 > http://www.BestSolution.at phone ++43 512 935834 > _______________________________________________ > e4-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev >
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