@PreDestroy is not borderline

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Wim Jongman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
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> One rule can be that the annotation should be generic. For example, the
> @Execute, @PostConstruct, @PreDestroy (border line case) can be re-used by
> other frameworks where as @Focus replaces a IView API which is not so good
> IMHO. This opens the door to other similar annotations like @IsDirty
> @IsAboutToShow and stuff like that.
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> > I much more love us to have 1 annotation named @Lifecycle but allow it
> > to hold a meta value @Lifecycle("PROCESS_ADDITION"),
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> The problem I see with the parameter annotations is that there is no
> documentation or code completion that tells the developer what can be used
> in certain cases. If you want to have it documented would it then not be
> better to do something like:
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> @Lifecycle(preShutDown=true)
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> Regards,
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> Wim
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> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Tom Schindl 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> I started exploring this @Lifecycle stuff but made it now more generic
>> by using an injection named @Invoke
>>
>> You can find my work at
>> https://github.com/tomsontom/eclipse.platform.runtime
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Am 07.11.12 21:44, schrieb Tom Schindl:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > First of all I think annotation should be used with great care here are
>> > the rules I'd set out for when to use them.
>> >
>> > * when we need to get return value e.g. to cancel something
>> >
>> > * if the information is very tightly scoped to the information provider
>> >   and many developers will make use it (performance!)
>> >
>> >
>> > IMHO lifecycle is better done with annotations, instead of events and
>> > the rest of the lifecycle is already annotation based.
>> >
>> > A problem i have with the current annotation based system is that it is
>> > very static - we have to invent too many different annotation.
>> >
>> > I much more love us to have 1 annotation named @Lifecycle but allow it
>> > to hold a meta value @Lifecycle("PROCESS_ADDITION"),
>> > @Lifecycle("PRE_SHUTDOWN"), ... and we have another invoke on the
>> > ContextInjectionFactory where we pass this meta value.
>> >
>> > Such a feature would be very welcome to implement
>> > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=392903 which has to based
>> > upon annotation because we need to have a return value, and using the
>> > event system is simply to cumbersom because the event is fired for each
>> > and every element and the receiver has to skip the processing in 95% of
>> > the cases (once more performance!).
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > Am 07.11.12 20:12, schrieb Eric Moffatt:
>> >>
>> >> While looking at https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=376821I
>> >> realized that we should have some general guidelines for use in similar
>> >> situations...
>> >>
>> >> My general feeling is that we need to be strict(er) about annotations
>> >> since I'm afraid that they'll get out of hand otherwise but I really
>> >> don't have a particular metric in mind for deciding which technique we
>> >> should use. In the case of the defect above the choice was made easier
>> >> since it is clearly a UI Lifecycle event.
>> >>
>> >> Can anybody think of a 'rule' for deciding when we should use one
>> versus
>> >> the other ?
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >>
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