:), I wish that worked as often as we hope it did.

But we need to do something to create the buzz that would drive interest and 
contribution. Having a dark theme at least gives them hope Eclipse can look 
like the cool kids, even if it didn't work everywhere. And who knows, that 
might look cool on it's own…

D

From: Lars Vogel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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@Tom, Kai, my hope is that if we make the SWT limitation visible to a broader 
user base that more people are interested in fixing them / contributing to them.


2013/7/2 Tom Schindl 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
The big problem with a Dark-Theme is SWT which is not able to theme e.g. 
Buttons, Table-Headers, Menus. I've always said and I'm still convinced that 
the way we apply CSS on widgets is wrong.

IMHO the CSS-Engine should do the selector calculation to assemble a 
style-string for a widget and SWT has to provide an API setCSSStyle(String) to 
accept this string and transform it to the native calls (which e.g. could be 
css-style stuff once more - e.g. IIRC Gtk does have such a feature).

This way we could even get radial gradients, ... without coming up with a 
Gradient-API and this IMHO dirty image workaround.

Tom


On 01.07.13 23:19, Doug Schaefer wrote:
I know our UX team was hesitant to use a dark theme. It looks cool but
doesn't necessarily help productivity. Would be good to try it though
and see, that's the beauty of switchable themes :).

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"Dark Themes" seem to be very attractive to developers, for example in
the popular Sublime editor or the IntelliJ IDE. Would be nice to have
one in Eclipse also (for all the cool developers out there ;-) ).


2013/7/1 Sopot Çela <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>


    For details on the chrome theme
    http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/eclipse-4-chrome-theme#.UdHb6flJN1d 
and
    https://github.com/jeeeyul/eclipse-themes/ You can see that there is
    a certain interest in it. Based on
    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=386470 we have also
    the blessing of the contributor.





    On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Sopot Çela 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

        I second that, especially the Chrome theme. There is widespread
        consensus that it is a very nice theme.



        On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Lars Vogel 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

            I think new CSS themes for the IDE would be a nice item.
            Based on an offline discussion with Sopot I suggest a theme
            similar to Chrome and also a Dark Theme. A minimum thing
            would be to reduce the default whitespace used for a
            PartSashContainer.


            2013/6/27 Paul Webster 
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<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>


                At today's meeting we're going to talk about our
                plan/general direction for Luna.  I've put up a general
                draft at http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_UI/Plan/4.4

                While we're editing it, please post any suggestions you
                have to the mailing list so we can update the draft
                (instead of all editing it at once).  After the meeting
                we can update it individually and then review it again.

                Later
                Paul


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