Hi Eric,

I think the common complaints I here from new Eclipse 4 customers are:

1.) Missing Eclipse 4 perspective switcher (menu and toolbar)
2.) Eclipse 4 progress view missing
3.) Help system missing

I personally think the lack of Pojo programming support for the Eclipse IDE
is preventing a larger ecosystem to provide Eclipse 4 extensions. So your
work started for POJO views in
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=356511 was really great.
Having the same of handlers would help. Maybe it could be used to build a
perspective switcher which works in the IDE and the RCP applications.

Also I think the model fragments should become more flexible, I think the
related bug is https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=324954.

Best regards, Lars


2013/10/2 Doug Schaefer <[email protected]>

>  +1 on the help system. We have building a new one on our roadmap as
> well. Be happy to work with others up stream on it.
>
>   From: Jo Grant <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: E4 Project developer mailing list <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, 2 October, 2013 3:26 PM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Now's the time to figure out what we need in e4
>
>  > As quickly as possible I'd like to
> > identify those areas that folks think are worth doing so we can then move
> > on to assigning people to actually do the work / designs.
>
> How about the help system? The biggest problem we had with going to
> production with e4 (we've just passed code freeze!) has been that we had to
> "roll our own" help system. I know you want to do something radical with
> help to make it play like the rest of e4. So it's a lot of work. But
> starting it sooner rather than later will enable more people to get this
> into production apps.
>
> The second biggest problem were bugs that had to do with cloning
> perspectives. But that could just be a lack of documentation/examples. I
> had all sorts of weirdness where certain handlers and stuff were missing
> from the context of the cloned perspective. But that may be specific to our
> approach rather than an e4 thing in general.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jo
>
>
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