The extension itself works quite good for me you may have a look at it in https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/18813/
I am having a „problem“ however, where I would like to see your comment: I use the extension point to load a second model, which connects to the first model. Now I want to save the second model when I do the save operation on the first model. The respective call is embedded in @Persist ModelEditor#doSave. Now I cant seem to use DI in my contribution tabs, so I guess I would have to pass the save method calling to the extension point. As one may register several editorTab contributions (each e.g. for a specific element) I plan to extend another class in the editorTab EP where this is passed to! Do you see a better solution for this I miss out? thanks, marco An 17. Jänner 2014 at 16:07:23, Marco Descher ([email protected]) schrieb: > > Hy Wim, > > ok, I agree. But I want to find a way to non-invasively extend the > existing application model first, as I think that then the extension > point really makes sense! Currently I found EMF Facets which > could be a good starting point. And if it proves well, I would create > it the way, that facets are supported. Because this way you could > provide your own facet with your own additional attributes etc. > and integrate them fully into the eclipse tooling. > > I will come up with the respective gerrit entries in due time :) > > thanks, > marco > > -- > Marco Descher > Sent with Airmail > > An 17. Jänner 2014 at 16:02:58, Wim Jongman ([email protected]) > schrieb: > > > > Hi Marco, > > > > Since there is no documentation attached to the existing extension > > point I > > figured we can just use it the way we want. > > > > Take for example the ui.views extension point. It can be used > > to add views > > but also to add view categories. Two related but different concepts. > > Since > > your extension works with the model editor it makes sense to > move > > it to the > > existing extension point. > > > > Regards, > > > > Wim > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Marco Descher > > wrote: > > > > > Hy Wim, > > > > > > as I found out during the documentation, the current extension > > point is > > > not extending the tooling in this way. It is mainly focused > on > > adding > > > editors for new model elements instead of augmenting the editor > > > capabilities for existing elements (there are Exceptions > > but I don’t think > > > they go the right way). I currently forked the tooling on github > > and work > > > with my own build (https://github.com/ecrit/e4.tools). > > During this I > > > might uncover some problems and do a complete refactoring. > > So I think I > > > just stick it this way at the moment, and will come up with another > > > integration approach in a few months! > > > > > > I also don’t think that it makes much sense to augment the editing > > > capabilites of the existing model elements, as most certainly > > you have to > > > add new attributes to these, or did I miss a way to contribute > > to existing > > > elements, without having to create new EMF classes extending > > those? > > > > > > thanks, > > > marco > > > > > > An 07. Jänner 2014 at 10:46:09, Marco Descher ([email protected]) > > schrieb: > > > > > > > > Hy there, > > > > > > > > that would make sense, I guess. Although I think that I would > > first > > > > have to document the existing extension point > > > > code some more to be sure about it. I’ll open a bug for adding > > some > > > > documentation and throw it on gerrit then. > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > marco > > > > > > > > An 06. Jänner 2014 at 18:23:47, Wim Jongman ([email protected]) > > > > schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > Marco how would you feel moving your extension to the already > > > > > existing > > > > > extension point. > > > > > > > > > > > point="org.eclipse.e4.tools.emf.ui.editors"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom would this be the right point to extend the model editor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Sopot Çela > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Marco, I'll take a look and get back to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sopot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Marco Descher > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hy Sopot, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I created a short demo, and pushed it to gerrit in > > > > > >> https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/18813/ . A sample plug-in > > > > > consuming the > > > > > >> respective extension point is available on > > > > > >> > > > https://github.com/col-panic/generic-stuff/commit/cb4cc272ab4d0da33cd7462519c0ed51231fc029 > > > > > > . > > > > > >> > > > > > >> It is intentionally kept simple, and hacked!! So for an > > element > > > > > of type > > > > > >> MPart you get an additional CTabItem where currently > simply > > > > > the ID > > > > > >> attribute is mirrored. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> It should show the basic concept and point out the required > > > > > refactorings?! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> cheers, > > > > > >> marco > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Am 20.11.2013 um 09:59 schrieb Sopot Çela : > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Marco would you be able to make a proof of concept for one > > element > > > > > (say > > > > > >> MPart) and throw it on gerrit? I like the idea in principle > > > > but > > > > > it would be > > > > > >> great to have something to see and extend and get the feel > > of > > > > > it from my > > > > > >> keyboard. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sopot > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Lars Vogel > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Hi, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I think we should avoid a dependency to ECP. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> At some point the tooling should migrate to PDE or platform > > > > > and these > > > > > >>> tools can AFAIK not depend on a higher level in Eclipse. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Best regards, Lars > > > > > >>> Am 19.11.2013 21:25 schrieb "Jonas Helming" < > > > > > >>> [email protected]>: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Hi, > > > > > >>>> I totally like the idea. However, it reminds me to an > idea > > > > > I have since > > > > > >>>> a long time, which is related to your question. > > > > > >>>> When Tom implemented the first version of the e4 tools > > editor, > > > > > he > > > > > >>>> actually contacted me if the EMF Client Platform could > > > > be > > > > > used for this. > > > > > >>>> Back than, ECP had some restrictions: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> 1. The form-based editor was not really usable stand-alone > > > > > or embeddable > > > > > >>>> 2. We did not really support to customize the layout > > > > > >>>> 3. We did not support a Master Detail view within a form > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> In the mean time, these restrictions are not valid anymore: > > > > > >>>> 1. The editor component can be used stand-alone and > embedded > > > > > everywere, > > > > > >>>> it is a sub component called EMF Forms > > > > > >>>> 2. The layout of the form-based UI can itself be described > > > > > with an EMF > > > > > >>>> model (see > > > > > >>>> > > > http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/tutorials/emf-client-platform-how-to-customize-the-editor-layout/ > > > > > > > > >>>> ) > > > > > >>>> 3. We currently develop a master detail view, which > is > > almost > > > > > finished > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Major advantages of this would be IMHO: > > > > > >>>> 1. The code base of the e4 editor would get drastically > > smaller > > > > > and > > > > > >>>> would only focus on e4 model specific aspects > > > > > >>>> 2. Custom Applications elements can be edited without > > > > any > > > > > adaption, as > > > > > >>>> ECP still support reflective UIs > > > > > >>>> 3. The layout of the editor can be easily customized > by > > users > > > > > using a > > > > > >>>> view model > > > > > >>>> 4. New concepts such as the one you describe can be asily > > > > added > > > > > >>>> 5. The e4 editor would benefit from ECP features, e.g. > > validation > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> The main disadvantage is of course that this would require > > > > > initial > > > > > >>>> effort. Your suggested solution is of course much easier > > > > > to implement for > > > > > >>>> now. Additionally e4 Tools would get a depenency to > ECP. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I just wanted to share this thought to get peoples opinions. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Cheers > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Jonas > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Am 19.11.2013 13:05, schrieb Marco Descher: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Hy List, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> WHAT > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I would like to add horizontal extension possibility > > to > > > > > the e4 > > > > > >>>> tooling. That is, there already is the possibility > to > > add > > > > > new elements to > > > > > >>>> the application model, and provide ones own editors > > > > > >>>> for the e4 tooling. I would like to extend the tooling > > for > > > > > already > > > > > >>>> available elements by adding an extension point to > the > > > > tooling > > > > > itself. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> WHY > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I want to enrich already available elements with additional > > > > > >>>> information. This could for example be used to add documentation > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> information to all elements of the application model, > > > > > >>>> or would allow me to e.g. create an additional tab, valid > > > > > only if I use > > > > > >>>> the SWT renderer, allowing me to do deeper inspection > > of > > > > > the model. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> HOW > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I plan to create an extension point allowing to contribute > > > > > tabs to > > > > > >>>> given elements, as can be seen in the following image. > > The > > > > > extension point > > > > > >>>> will have to define for > > > > > >>>> what model elements the contributed tab is valid, and > > on > > > > > call of the > > > > > >>>> editor the full model will be passed. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Can you please give me any feedback, on what you think > > about > > > > > this, > > > > > >>>> who would back/mentor this implementation, and what > > he/she > > > > > would do > > > > > >>>> different? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > > > >>>> marco > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>>> e4-dev mailing [email protected]:// > > > dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>>> e4-dev mailing list > > > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > > > >>>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>> e4-dev mailing list > > > > > >>> [email protected] > > > > > >>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> e4-dev mailing list > > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > > >> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> e4-dev mailing list > > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > > >> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > e4-dev mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > e4-dev mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > e4-dev mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > e4-dev mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > e4-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > e4-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > _______________________________________________ e4-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev
