Any comments on this?

Am 25.07.2014 14:04, schrieb Jonas Helming:
> Hi,
>
> The second issue has been discussed a year ago with no result. But I
> agree that having the tools in an incubation state and additionally
> not in the release train is bad for the adoption. As the e4 project is
> an incubation project, it cannot produce 1.0 releases. The options
> were to move them to PDE or the platform, but there was never a
> conclusion to this.
> I would like to suggest a third solution: create a new e4 tools
> project. This would enable us to graduate the e4 tools easily, keep
> all existing (and interested) comitters and join the release train.
> I would be willing to drive this, if everybody agrees.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Jonas
>
> Am 25.07.2014 13:14, schrieb Olivier Prouvost:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am on holidays and cannot test the new release...
>>
>> Some remarks anyway :
>>
>> As tom said, I think the dialogs/windows node is really confusing and
>> dialogs are not usable as it is today. It would be really interesting
>> to start a new discussion on this topic as soon as possible to find
>> together an operational and efficient solution. It should probably
>> not appear as it is now in the stable version.. 
>>
>> Another remark concerns the release number .. Are the e4 platform and
>> tools always considered as incubation projects ? In this case
>> industry will not adopt it easily.. It is really the moment to have a
>> 1.0 e4 tools version. I know it is psychological but it is important.
>>
>> For input parts I don ´t remeber the discussion which led to their
>> deprecation. But AFAIK it would be possible to find them by
>> annotation analysis (input part is a part having a method @Persist) ?
>> This could be a new api on partservice to get them ?
>>
>> Regards
>> Olivier
>>
>>
>> Le 25 juil. 2014 à 12:58, Sopot Çela <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
>>
>>> I did some testing and I think we can 'release' this. We can address
>>> Tom's concerns along the way. I tested also the live editor and did
>>> not notice any freezing.
>>>
>>> Sopot
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Schindl
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     The editor currently allows to add dialogs & wizards who are
>>>     provisional
>>>     APIs, shouldn't the tooling show this to the user?
>>>
>>>     Same goes for InputPart which is marked as deprecated - although
>>>     I voted
>>>     against that deprecation - and should be shown like this!
>>>
>>>     I also just fixed a minor problem with CompositePart part which now
>>>     allows you to set the title, icon, ... .
>>>
>>>     Tom
>>>
>>>     On 23.07.14 18:00, Lars Vogel wrote:
>>>     > It is not yet solved, but Steven found a workaround. I
>>>     recently noticed
>>>     > that keybinding for cut and paste are also not working. I
>>>     think we need
>>>     > to fix that least the keybinding thing. I plan to look at that
>>>     next week
>>>     > (if no one else fixes it before that).
>>>     >
>>>     > Best regards, Lars
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > 2014-07-22 15:59 GMT+02:00 Paul Webster
>>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     > <mailto:[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>>>:
>>>     >
>>>     >     On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Lars Vogel
>>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     >     <mailto:[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     >         Hi,
>>>     >
>>>     >         I gave the e4 tools a quick test and if I open the
>>>     "Live model
>>>     >         editor" the IDE freezes (reacts very slowly). Can
>>>     someone retest?
>>>     >
>>>     >         Bug report:
>>>     https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=439511
>>>     >         I think we should wait with publishing the tools to
>>>     the market
>>>     >         place until this is fixed.
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >     What's the status of this?  It's holding up our 0.16
>>>     stable checkpoint.
>>>     >
>>>     >     Later,
>>>     >     Paul
>>>     >
>>>     >     --
>>>     >     Paul Webster
>>>     >     Hi floor.  Make me a sammich! - GIR
>>>     >
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