I'm not sure what all the projects in Eclipse do but http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/HOWTO/Incubation_Phase clearly states you're not supposed to have N.x release where N>0 while you're in incubation. CC'ed Wayne for comments.
Sopot On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Olivier Prouvost < [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Being an incubation project does not really exclude to produce a 1.0 > release… SWTBot is a 2.2.1 and is developed as an incubation project… So > having a e4 tools 1.0 is possible... > > I think that creating a new project will not really change the result.. > But changing the way to work on it probably… > > As Lars said, we work on this project on our spare time. This is the life > of this kind of project. No problem about that for me. We try to do our > best to achieve a good product. But even if we do our best, a direction > must be defined more clearly. Today bugs are opened more for personal > reasons (i would like to see this like this) or for urgency, rather than > for global or strategical reasons. May be some bugs could be identified as > ‘strategic' and they would open a discussion about it… We could may be > schedule 2 or 3 strategic bugs per release ? And in our bugzilla queries we > could have them as a common goal besides our personal bugs. > > Something that could be more efficient also, would be to schedule a real > physical meeting during each eclipse con since we are almost all attending. > We could prepare a set of issues to be discussed… Today this kind of > meeting is hold by BOF where the subjects are not really defined and the > BOF itself is organized if we want/think to organize it (during last Econ > US I asked for one but it was not really scheduled). > > As Jonas said, the discussion about the dialogs in model has been done a > year ago, but it must continue to know what we can do with it… The new > discussion could be in one of the issues of this meeting after speaking > about it on mailing list... > > And to finish, integrating E4 stuff in the mars PDE would be probably a > good idea > > Regards > Olivier > > > > Le 30 juil. 2014 à 13:11, Lars Vogel <[email protected]> a écrit : > > About a new e4 tools project? I think that is not necessary, we could > graduate e4 tools also from the existing project. The issue IMHO is that > that we need a new project but that no one does real work on this item at > the moment. > > FYI - I plan to integrate the e4 project wizard for Mars into PDE. > > Best regards, Lars > > > 2014-07-30 11:08 GMT+02:00 Jonas Helming <[email protected]>: > >> Any comments on this? >> >> >> Am 25.07.2014 14:04, schrieb Jonas Helming: >> >> Hi, >> >> The second issue has been discussed a year ago with no result. But I >> agree that having the tools in an incubation state and additionally not in >> the release train is bad for the adoption. As the e4 project is an >> incubation project, it cannot produce 1.0 releases. The options were to >> move them to PDE or the platform, but there was never a conclusion to this. >> I would like to suggest a third solution: create a new e4 tools project. >> This would enable us to graduate the e4 tools easily, keep all existing >> (and interested) comitters and join the release train. >> I would be willing to drive this, if everybody agrees. >> >> Best Regards >> >> Jonas >> >> Am 25.07.2014 13:14, schrieb Olivier Prouvost: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I am on holidays and cannot test the new release... >> >> Some remarks anyway : >> >> As tom said, I think the dialogs/windows node is really confusing and >> dialogs are not usable as it is today. It would be really interesting to >> start a new discussion on this topic as soon as possible to find together >> an operational and efficient solution. It should probably not appear as it >> is now in the stable version.. >> >> Another remark concerns the release number .. Are the e4 platform and >> tools always considered as incubation projects ? In this case industry will >> not adopt it easily.. It is really the moment to have a 1.0 e4 tools >> version. I know it is psychological but it is important. >> >> For input parts I don ´t remeber the discussion which led to their >> deprecation. But AFAIK it would be possible to find them by annotation >> analysis (input part is a part having a method @Persist) ? This could be a >> new api on partservice to get them ? >> >> Regards >> Olivier >> >> >> Le 25 juil. 2014 à 12:58, Sopot Çela <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >> I did some testing and I think we can 'release' this. We can address >> Tom's concerns along the way. I tested also the live editor and did not >> notice any freezing. >> >> Sopot >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Schindl < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The editor currently allows to add dialogs & wizards who are provisional >>> APIs, shouldn't the tooling show this to the user? >>> >>> Same goes for InputPart which is marked as deprecated - although I voted >>> against that deprecation - and should be shown like this! >>> >>> I also just fixed a minor problem with CompositePart part which now >>> allows you to set the title, icon, ... . >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On 23.07.14 18:00, Lars Vogel wrote: >>> > It is not yet solved, but Steven found a workaround. I recently noticed >>> > that keybinding for cut and paste are also not working. I think we need >>> > to fix that least the keybinding thing. I plan to look at that next >>> week >>> > (if no one else fixes it before that). >>> > >>> > Best regards, Lars >>> > >>> > >>> > 2014-07-22 15:59 GMT+02:00 Paul Webster <[email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Lars Vogel <[email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I gave the e4 tools a quick test and if I open the "Live model >>> > editor" the IDE freezes (reacts very slowly). Can someone >>> retest? >>> > >>> > Bug report: >>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=439511 >>> > I think we should wait with publishing the tools to the market >>> > place until this is fixed. >>> > >>> > >>> > What's the status of this? It's holding up our 0.16 stable >>> checkpoint. >>> > >>> > Later, >>> > Paul >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Paul Webster >>> > Hi floor. 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