+1 for me too !   

I also opened a CQ for the bundle spy (CQ 9096 
<https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9096>). We will have to new 
spies in a few time..




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> Le 10 janv. 2015 à 17:53, Lars Vogel <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> +1 from me to integrate it into the e4 tools (obviously)
> 
> I think we need a few more +1 from e4 committers to start the migration 
> process from Github to the e4 spies.
> 
> Am 09.01.2015 15:27 schrieb "Ed Merks" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> Wim,
> 
> Yes, there are cases where the changes to the preference are assumed to 
> happen directly via the UI (preference page) rather than by listening to the 
> preference itself change.  That's unfortunate...
> 
> Cheers,
> Ed
> 
> 
> On 09/01/2015 2:51 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:
>> Just an FYI as well... 
>> 
>> What often is overlooked in preference managers is that there can be 
>> additional things done besides just changing a preference value.
>> 
>> For example, when changing the preference "Plug-in Development/Include all 
>> plug-ins from target in Java search" a job is activated that updates the 
>> java search scope. You can see this for yourself when you open the progress 
>> view and flip the value. When this preference is set directly through the 
>> preference store then this job is not activated which obviously is very 
>> confusing.
>> 
>> In other words, preferences like this cannot be managed correctly by Oomph, 
>> the Workspace Mechanic and now the Preference spy.
>> 
>> Since the preference pages are all manually coded UI panels, there is no way 
>> in knowing what things are managed beside the actual preference.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Wim 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Ed Merks <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Simon,
>> 
>> Just an FYI...  The Oomph project has an EMF model that wrap Eclipse's 
>> preferences.  This allows all preferences to be inspected (and even 
>> changed), including secure preferences.  When the model is opened in an 
>> editor, that editor will select any preference that changes.  This aspect is 
>> very crude compared to what's in the blog, but we often use it like a "spy" 
>> to figure out where preferences changed via the UI are actually stored in 
>> the preference store.  The primary purpose of this preference model is for 
>> use in other Oomph models...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/01/2015 1:45 PM, Simon Scholz wrote:
>> Dear e4 developers,
>> 
>> I like to contribute the Preference Spy, which I introduced in the 
>> http://blog.vogella.com/2014/12/28/preferences-spy-for-eclipse-ide-and-rcp/ 
>> <http://blog.vogella.com/2014/12/28/preferences-spy-for-eclipse-ide-and-rcp/>
>>  blog entry , to the E4 tools, so that it becomes an official spy, like the 
>> Model Spy and others.
>> 
>> We at the vogella GmbH already use this Preference Spy a lot, especially for 
>> the saneclipse project.
>> Olivier Prouvost already gave the Preference Spy a try and explained how to 
>> embed the Preference Spy as official E4 SpyPart.
>> 
>> All necessary information can be obtained from the blog entry 
>> http://blog.vogella.com/2014/12/28/preferences-spy-for-eclipse-ide-and-rcp/ 
>> <http://blog.vogella.com/2014/12/28/preferences-spy-for-eclipse-ide-and-rcp/>,
>>  like an introduction for it, the github repository 
>> (https://github.com/vogellacompany/PreferencesSpy 
>> <https://github.com/vogellacompany/PreferencesSpy>) or the p2 updatesite 
>> (http://dl.bintray.com/vogellacompany/eclipse-preference-spy/ 
>> <http://dl.bintray.com/vogellacompany/eclipse-preference-spy/>).
>> 
>> What do you think about the plan to integrate the Preference Spy as official 
>> SpyPart?
>> 
>> Comments or Github issues are welcome and appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> best regards,
>> 
>> Simon Scholz
>> 
>> 
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