+1 


On Jan 10, 2015, 17:54, at 17:54, Lars Vogel <[email protected]> wrote:
>+1 from me to integrate it into the e4 tools (obviously)
>
>I think we need a few more +1 from e4 committers to start the migration
>process from Github to the e4 spies.
>Am 09.01.2015 15:27 schrieb "Ed Merks" <[email protected]>:
>
>>  Wim,
>>
>> Yes, there are cases where the changes to the preference are assumed
>to
>> happen directly via the UI (preference page) rather than by listening
>to
>> the preference itself change.  That's unfortunate...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> On 09/01/2015 2:51 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:
>>
>>   Just an FYI as well...
>>
>> What often is overlooked in preference managers is that there can be
>> additional things done besides just changing a preference value.
>>
>>  For example, when changing the preference "Plug-in
>Development/Include
>> all plug-ins from target in Java search" a job is activated that
>updates
>> the java search scope. You can see this for yourself when you open
>the
>> progress view and flip the value. When this preference is set
>directly
>> through the preference store then this job is not activated which
>obviously
>> is very confusing.
>>
>>  In other words, preferences like this cannot be managed correctly by
>> Oomph, the Workspace Mechanic and now the Preference spy.
>>
>>  Since the preference pages are all manually coded UI panels, there
>is no
>> way in knowing what things are managed beside the actual preference.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>
>>  Wim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Ed Merks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Simon,
>>>
>>> Just an FYI...  The Oomph project has an EMF model that wrap
>Eclipse's
>>> preferences.  This allows all preferences to be inspected (and even
>>> changed), including secure preferences.  When the model is opened in
>an
>>> editor, that editor will select any preference that changes.  This
>aspect
>>> is very crude compared to what's in the blog, but we often use it
>like a
>>> "spy" to figure out where preferences changed via the UI are
>actually
>>> stored in the preference store.  The primary purpose of this
>preference
>>> model is for use in other Oomph models...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/01/2015 1:45 PM, Simon Scholz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear e4 developers,
>>>>
>>>> I like to contribute the Preference Spy, which I introduced in the
>>>>
>http://blog.vogella.com/2014/12/28/preferences-spy-for-eclipse-ide-and-rcp/
>>>> blog entry , to the E4 tools, so that it becomes an official spy,
>like the
>>>> Model Spy and others.
>>>>
>>>> We at the vogella GmbH already use this Preference Spy a lot,
>especially
>>>> for the saneclipse project.
>>>> Olivier Prouvost already gave the Preference Spy a try and
>explained how
>>>> to embed the Preference Spy as official E4 SpyPart.
>>>>
>>>> All necessary information can be obtained from the blog entry
>>>>
>http://blog.vogella.com/2014/12/28/preferences-spy-for-eclipse-ide-and-rcp/,
>>>> like an introduction for it, the github repository (
>>>> https://github.com/vogellacompany/PreferencesSpy) or the p2
>updatesite (
>>>> http://dl.bintray.com/vogellacompany/eclipse-preference-spy/).
>>>>
>>>> What do you think about the plan to integrate the Preference Spy as
>>>> official SpyPart?
>>>>
>>>> Comments or Github issues are welcome and appreciated. Thanks in
>advance.
>>>>
>>>> best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Simon Scholz
>>>>
>>>>
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